[Miss Marple]

I remember the three princes who died in mysterious ways. There was a thread on it here at the time and mucuh speculation about it. Dog, do you remember when that was?

[Dog]

Let me do a search..

[cyncooper]

I saw Posner on with Chris Matthews last night. He claims that when we captured a senior al Qaeda operative we used interesting methods to try to get him to talk: Withholding pain meds, rewarding with the meds when he would cooperate, and even truth serum. Posner carefully set this up as our main interset (It was March 2002) was to find out if another attack was planned, and we were perfectly within international law to use extraordinary methods (not that if this became public enemies of America like the dems here wouldn't use it against us--IMO, but I digress).

He then said the man would not cooperate to their satisfaction so they wanted to fool him that he was moved to Saudi custody. The theory was that the Saudis were known to use outright torture or could kill him, so the thinking went that if he thought he was within their control he would beg to return to the Americans where he would finally tell us what we wanted to know.

Instead, Posner says, when the fake Saudi captors approached the man he was relieved and gave them the phone number for a prince and said the prince would tell them what to do. The prince (I did not get his name) is evidently well known and was educated here in the U.S. (I believe Stanford was mentioned) and his children either attended or are attending school here. Matthews said he was widedly perceived as very pro-American (actually Matthews left off the perceived and just stated "he's very pro-American", when I think the "perceived to be" should have been used.) Posner said that is what makes him the perfect "contact"---Above suspicion.

Does he have the truth nailed down? I don't know.

BTW, I also saw this Lance on CNN last night and didn't know what to make of his book. He harped on 1989---I couldn't tell if he was trying to put the onus on Bush 41 or if I'm overy sensitive. Of course, the fact is that if we knew much in '89 and then the 1993 WTC bombing happened and the subsequent bombings of the embassies and the Cole, well, it seems to me to pretty damning to the previous occupant---the one betwixt 41 and 43.