Posted on 09/04/2003 12:33:34 AM PDT by kattracks
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:16:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
September 4, 2003 -- As a violent thunderstorm flickered and dimmed the lights in Florida's execution chamber, a former minister was put to death last night for murdering an abortion doctor.
Paul Hill used his last breaths to call upon right-to-lifers to continue the fight - by any means necessary.
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Oh brother. This sounds like one of the talking points off an atheist web site. Get some new material.
I'm totally with you guys - what bothers me the most is that I see people whose opinions are thoughtful and respectful posting less and those whose opinions are redundant, childish and hateful posting more. And many of the obnoxious posters have been here a good while - perhaps not active - but here. And these posters are also quick to defend one another when chastised.This is actually mild for me...LOL. Try being a dissenter on one of the "Road Map" threads. >:)
-Eric
They are not going to Heaven if they dont have a contrite heart. Hill was anything but contrite. He wasnt asking for forgiveness, he was looking forward for his reward for doing what he thought would please God.
(shakes head, resists temptation to ask how one could combat an "enemy" whose name one can't even spell) ...
Hill killing a person and someone aborting a child are two separate things. The end does not justify the means.
This is a very interesting statement. It seems that you’ve limited the scope of that reasoning to Mr. Hill’s actions. How about the abortionist? How about those performing and receiving abortions. Do their ends justify their means?
Women seeking abortions that particular day, or any other services provided by the clinic, simply went elsewhere for them.
Clawing at wild fantasies will not change the senselessness of the murders, nor the evil of the man who comitted them.
It comes FIRST in all of their deliberations on politics; it dominates any consideration of any candidate. They will ignore all other issues, even (as is in California) when the election has nothing to do with it!
THis small group has decided that they wish the Republican Party to be a prolife party, in toto. Thus, they exact such incantations of loyalty to the cause from all who wish to join what they would make "their club". You see what happens when one disagrees with having the government interfere with so personal an issue...
"Baby Killer!"; "Serial Killer!"; "Nazi!"; and the ever-popular "RINO!" are but a few of the epithets hurled at the apostate.
And they do have one effect! They cause us to lose the fight over judges. To mollify those "Social(ist) Conservatives", the President is obliged to appoint only judges whom have a strong chance of being prolife.(note, no other, actual Constitutional issues are ever mentioned) Of course, the Leftist Democrats will never allow the confirmation of a prolife judge. Thus, the President is losing his chance to reshape the court system in a conservative direction.
Well, the reason you can see other surgeries performed is because the patient probably gave their consent for it to be shown. There's a privacy issue there.
I once did see a documentary that showed an abortion. It followed around the woman who was getting it, and then showed the actual abortion. Lemme try to find the name of it for you.
I’m still waiting for that type you said you would find for me, if such really exists.
Why not show 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions performed?
The answer to that question is simple.
If, abortions were shown on television, the very next day, there would be no abortionist or abortion supporters. It is that horrific.
It really is difficult for me to discuss this issue earnestly. I just start to feel queasy when I think about what’s really going on hear. One of the things that bother me about this subject is how it is covered, always through the filter of some editor’s eye. Sometimes, a picture is really worth a thousand words. To think of people cheering the death of a man who simply wanted to stop such procedures is unsettling. I admire his conviction.
They should show an abortion being performed to every women considering one. When they see theres little hands and feet maybe they'll reconsider. For the women who want a 3rd trimester abortion maybe seeing that the doctor has to pry the skull open and then suck the babies brains out to collapse the skull will make them realize that this isn't just a piece of flesh, it's a human life.
You’ve made me recall something that I had long ago forgotten, something I’d blocked out of my mind now for quite some time. I remember once accompanying my aunt to her nursing school as she attended class one night. I was young, around 10 years old. She took me to a lab that had many jars in it, jars that contained little babies (fetuses) in them and other body parts like eyes… I don’t know how I’ve forgotten about it for so long, but I do recall how horrified, sick, and saddened it made me feel to see them in those jars. They all seemed to be sleeping so quietly, but the olive-green tinted liquid they were submersed in seemed gruesome and perverse. I had dreams of becoming a doctor in my youth, but witnessing the training my aunt was receiving turned me away from pursuing such a profession –I knew my heart was not in it. I just don’t believe in letting others filter how we see certain events. Words can be used to color such events in a way that distorts or completely misrepresents what is being done. These types of abortions should be video typed. I don’t need anyone telling me about them. I can adequately discern what is being done, and all should be given the real picture so that they can see also.
THINK about it. He prevented NO abortions, as they were available down the street, almost. He slaughtered a physician (who was unarmed and had comitted no crime), and a (also unarmed) escort(a military veteran). He viciously wounded the escort's wife (who had nothing to do with the clinic). He swore he would have even killed any cops who got in his way. Instead of appearing sorrowful and prayerful after the murders, he wore a S.E. grin from ear to ear and reveled in his fame and notoriety. Not ONCE did he even apologize for the victims who WERE NOT involved with abortion.
He reacted with absolute glee to the things he'd done. I repeat: he's NO DIFFERENT from any other psycho shooter, in motivations, or methods. By "admiring" his "convictions", you do your cause NO good.
Had you gotten in his way, you too would be dead. He's no hero, only the latest in a long line of losers willing to kill to get off on themselves, and then to excuse it with a "cause".
THINK about it. He prevented NO abortions...
He reacted with absolute glee to the things he'd done. I repeat: he's NO DIFFERENT from any other psycho shooter, in motivations, or methods. By "admiring" his "convictions", you do your cause NO good.
You are wrong warrior. Have you ever seen a third trimester abortion performed on a woman? Would you stand by and watch one if you could? There comes a time in some people's lives when the light clicks on and life has meaning. Mr. Hill was a man of conviction. He put actions behind his beliefs; you have to admit this takes courage. I don't think he chose the best option, but Mr. Abortion Doctor did not get a chance to clock in that day nor any more days. Thus, a lot of women had to cancel permanently their appointment with the "early-fetal demise" doctor. So sorry -not!
Abortion in the U.S. is legal. To change that, the Constitution provides legal means which do not kill people. That, of course, takes time, work, and persuasion, which Paul Hill apparently lacked the fortitude to pursue. He decided, on his own, to short-circuit that Constitution and the establised law. In this, he is firmly in the company of all terrorists.
I swore an Oath to defend that Constitution he so obviously holds in contempt. He and those like him, whether they be Muslim, Nazi, EnvironMENTALists, or "prolife", are engaged in an attack upon it. They are therefore my enemies.
The offensive nature of the procedure itself is not relevant, save how it affects one's own conscience. MANY medical procedures would turn the stomachs of people if they were observed.
I've seen what shotgun blasts do to bodies, too. Evidently that gore is acceptable?
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