ABORTION-SLAY REV EXECUTED

New York Post ^ | 9/04/03 | GERSH KUNTZMAN

[kattracks]

September 4, 2003 -- As a violent thunderstorm flickered and dimmed the lights in Florida's execution chamber, a former minister was put to death last night for murdering an abortion doctor.

Paul Hill used his last breaths to call upon right-to-lifers to continue the fight - by any means necessary.

[strela]

One less murdering scumbag using up my oxygen. Good.

[Chief_Joe]

One less murdering scumbag using up my oxygen. Good.

Scumbag??? I wonder if you would support a law that would require all abortions to be video taped. It's time for this dancing with language to end. I just realized I've never seen an abortion performed, yet I don't believe there is anything else on television I have not seen. Why not show 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions performed? Could it be the big, big, big lie would be ended sight on seen??? I'd love to see the to images juxtaposed: a third trimester abortion being performed and the execution of man who tried to stop such procedures. This is a sickening story.

[strela]

I wonder if you would support a law that would require all abortions to be video taped.

Irrelevant. Hill was a murderer and got the punishment he deserved.

[rockfish59]

Barbara Boxer next? I mean, tit for tat, ya' know?

[wcbtinman]

Whether you agree with him or not, it sure was nice to see someone with real convictions.

If he really, truly believed that abortion is murder, I think that he can defend his actions before God.

[strela]

I agree that he was a murderer, but was it justified to stop the killing of innocent children?

No, not outside the legal system. Vigilante "justice" is no justice.

Had Hill murdered a terrorist holding hostage small children at a day care center, would he so villified?

Irrelevant. He didn't murder a terrorist under the scenario you described, he murdered a man in cold blood.

Or do you believe that life begins some 9 months after conception?

My views on abortion are irrelevant to this discussion.

[Heartbreak of Psoriasis]

I find Hill's logic unassailable.

Pro-lifers want it both ways. They insist that the fetus is a human person derseving of full legal protections, yet they refuse to accept that it follows then that one may use lethal force to stop another from taking that life.

Imagine if the abortionist had taken Hill's shotgun to the nearest maternity ward and started blasting newborns left and right. Clearly, everyone agrees that under those circumstances one is morally compelled to do anything within one's power to stop him, including killing him with all dispatch.

Hill acted to save innocent babies (by his reckoning) for a man who profited from their destruction. How is that significantly different from the analogy above?

I think that Hill did a service to us all by putting the Pro-Life movement to the test. Are Por-Lifers serious about the unborn being human? If so, it follows that abortion is murder, abortionists are murderers, and lethal force is justified (indeed, morally compelled) to stop it.

Heartbrak

[MEG33]

If you think war is immoral then would you suggest killing the soldier?If one thinks the death penalty is murder is it permissable to kill the executioner? Is a trial by jury or lynching the correct choice.

[wcbtinman]

Your questions are tangential to this discussion. The taking of any human life is murder. The question is: Is this action (murder) justified? If this murder prevents someone from killing an innocent child, then I would say, Yes it is.

God has, in the past, instructed that all of the men, women and children of a particular group be killed, along with their animals. God has been complicit in several killings that are written about in the Bible. For whatever reason, these murders were justified. I find no moral or Biblical ambiguity here.

You can't have the argument both ways.

[KC_Conspirator]

You know what I find really stunning about this episode? The fact that I find liberals, who are normally against the death penalty, celebrating this mans rightful execution. In fact, I heard our liberal local radio news guy gleefully proclaim this guy's execution, then transition into another news bit celebrating the 9th Circus Court's decision to free 100 inmates from death row. All in the same breath. Amazing.

[wcbtinman]

BTW, I never said that war is immoral. Some, maybe. But not all.

[MEG33]

If I believe war is immoral and a soldier is going to commit murder or air force bomber pilot is about to commit murder is it OK in your eyes for me to shoot him?Is setting off bombs OK or just shooting.Do you prefer a certain method of execution?Would you like a group like a posse to carry out the lynchings?

[Steely Tom]

What Paul Hill did was selfish. It damaged the pro-life movement by degrading its reputation. It played into the hands of the abortionists, by (among other means) helping them win future court victories in their fight to restrict the constitutional rights of pro-lifers to demonstrate at abortuaries.

He did far more harm than good in my view.

(steely)

[wcbtinman]

Echo...you've already been answered.

[MEG33]

In my mind I would be preventing murder so it's OK?

[bitcon]

I don't know how you can say the taking of any human life is murder. If you run a red light and kill someone accidentally is it murder? If someone breaks in to your house an you kill him is it murder? In the first instance it's a horrible accident not murder. In the second it's self defence.