[OldCorps]

Ok, all you guys tearing up sec white and shinseki, just one question:

any of you ever serve in the army?

[jbstrick]

"any of you ever serve in the army?"

...and your point?

[Justa]

I can't say I'm supportive of either one of them (Shinseki's 'Monica' berets) but I believe they have made good points vs. Rumsfield on both the direction of the Army and the force levels needed in Iraqistan.

It's simply boneheaded to give up tube artillery and M1A2s in favor of light forces and air power. That equates to casualties for us and success for our enemies. IMO Rummie is counting bean$ and that's bad news for our troops and their missions. The Soviets tried the light-mobile with their Airborne troops in Afghanistan and Chechnya and were mauled. Mogadishu should have been a lesson learned but apparently not to Rumsfield since no B-2s were lost.

Every light vehicle destroyed by an RPG, landmine, hand grenade, suicide bomber, etc. costs us casualties and erodes our morale while at the same time it boosts the esteem, morale and cause of our attackers. Martyrdom is a very bad situtation to permit among muslims particularly if it inflicts casualties as there is a religious justification for it. Smouldering HummVees and Strykers are no good to our morale either. Otoh being squashed by a tank after an RPG barely scratches the paint isn't a good bet for heaven.

There is no martyrdom for the Muslim in suicide. Let's do our part to keep it that way.

[brazzaville]

Good morning.

I was outraged when Shinseki turned the good Ranger black beret into an everyman hat. As is often the case, the move backfired and the Rangers got something better in the tan beret.

Shinseki went along with bill clinton's emasculation of the military. He and the other clintonista generals hate the current administration.

"any of you ever serve in the army?"

That's a silly question.

Shouldn't the 'A' in Army be capitalized? A Marine correctly pointed that out to me in another thread about the Marine Corps.