Posted on 09/02/2003 4:21:28 PM PDT by socal_parrot
A Democratic plot to boost Tom McClintocks candidacy at Arnold Schwarzeneggers expense has recently come to light.
On paper, the recall election should be a cakewalk for California Republicans. A cursory analysis reveals a governor with an approval rating below Richard Nixon at his low point. The only serious Democrat candidate is the states uninspiring lieutenant governor, Cruz Bustamante, who unquestioningly followed Governor Davis through his mishaps with the budget and energy crisis. It should be a breeze for Republicans, right? Think again. Democrats are euphoric over Tom McClintocks intransigence in continuing his long-shot bid for governor. This allows Democrats to divide and conquer their way into office. Democrats are attempting to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and Tom McClintock is an essential part of their game plan.
For starters, Democrats know McClintock cannot win. They know that he has ran for statewide office twice before and lost both times. McClintocks problem is not so much that hes unknown but that Californians know about him and have rejected his candidacy time and again. Knowing this, a Democrat plot to boost McClintocks candidacy at Schwarzeneggers expense has already surfaced. According to the Sacramento Bees Daniel Weintraub, Ever since Cruz Bustamante entered the race, it's been assumed that California's Indian tribes were going to pool their money and do independent expenditures on his behalf, expensive ads that get around the $21,000 limit on contributions. Now I am hearing rumblings that the Indians might think about helping Cruz in a more creative way as well. If they spent, say, $4 million on behalf of state Sen. Tom McClintock, the most conservative Republican in the race, they might pump McClintock's numbers up while hurting Arnold and not harming Cruz a bit. Remember, Cruz needs a split GOP vote to win. That would be one way to get it. The reliably Democratic Indian tribes, loyal to Bustamante, would essentially throw their weight behind McClintock to chip away at the support of Arnold Schwarzenegger, the GOP front-runner. The Democrat strategy with regard to Tom McClintock is: If you know you can beat em, join em.
McClintock is unfazed by this conniving scheme and is more than happy to play along. His actions suggest that hes willing to make allies with loyal Democratic groups under the logic, the enemy of my enemy (Arnold Schwarzenegger) is my friend. On August 28th, McClintock and Bustamante went together before the California Nations Indian Gaming Association to pledge their support. Needless to say, money will follow. Whether McClintock knows it or not, hes being used by the Left. If Democrat allies can keep McClintock in the game, they can put a cap on Arnolds support. A recent Los Angeles Times poll shows Bustamante with 35% of the vote and McClintock with 12%. The poll indicates that McClintock will lose decisively but more importantly, his vote will ensure that GOP front-runner Schwarzenegger loses as well.
It doesnt have to be this way. McClintock could see the light and do whats best for the party as Bill Simon did by bowing out of the race. Other than his new Democratic support, the picture continues to grow bleaker for McClintock. The Washington Post and Sacramento Bee are reporting that there will be a record turnout for the recall election. This invalidates the early calculus by McClintock supporters - that in a low turnout election, grassroots could carry the day. Further, the base is growing more familiar with Schwarzeneggers conservatism Arnold came out against partial-birth abortion, against gay marriage, and for a constitutional spending cap.
There comes a time when personal ambition must be set aside and self-affirming but false justifications for ones candidacy need to be reexamined. If McClintock stays in the California Senate, and assuming Arnold wins the governorship, he and Arnold could play the good-cop/bad-cop routine to perfection, mirroring President Bush and Tom Delays efforts at the national level. Additionally, McClintock may be well positioned to challenge Barbara Boxer in next years US Senate race. However, if McClintock persists with his spoiler campaign and throws the election to Bustamante, it is doubtful he will have any political capital for a future race.
But assuming things stay the way they are, with McClintocks help, Bustamante and the Democrats may well pull off an upset of a lifetime on Election Day.
No, I think the McJeffords types are the ones taking rounds in their own metatarsals. What good would it do to vote for McClintock (who presumably agrees with you on gun control), waste my vote, and help Bustamante get elected (who IS a soulmate of the gun grabbers)?
This would be more comforting if it wasn't the stand of virtually every anti-gun politician and group, most of whom claim to be interested in safety, limiting crime, and, of course, protecting the "childrun".
Is there any gun control in any place in the United States with which Arnold disagrees?
Is he in favor of ALL of the different "assault weapons" laws in various states and at the federal level?
Is he in favor of the handgun ban in Washington, D.C.?
Is he in favor of the de facto ban on concealed carry in Kalifornia due to the "discretionary" permitting system?
Is he in favor of requiring gun owners like me, who trained in the military, having to obtain a Gun Safety Certificate, at our own expense, every five years, after we have already obtained a Basic Handgun Safety Certificate, at our own expense, which was supposed to be good for life?
Is he in favor, as I believe he has stated, of closing the "gun show loophole" by requiring that every firearm transfer in Kalifornia be performed by a licensed Federal Firearms Licensee? This one is especially curious because there is no "gun show loophole" in Kalifornia because every firearm transfer must be performed by a licensed Federal Firearms Licensee.
The truth of the matter is that Arnold is ignorant of gun laws and uses the phrases that will convince ignorant people to support him OR he has chosen to take a political position regardless of facts to get elected.
In this case, the choice is YOURS.
More Tourette's symptoms from the King Tourette.
I think there is real hope for Arnold to become more pro-gun again. And we KNOW Bustamante and Davis.
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SCHWARZENEGGER: Outlawing guns is not the right method of eliminating the problem. If you outlaw guns, people will still have them illegally. In Europe, they're outlawed everywhere. They have very strict gun control in Italy. Yet the Pope was shot. They have very strict gun control in Germany. Yet you see pimps shooting one another. Politicians have been shot in Sweden and Holland, where guns are outlawed.
Some things you just have to do on principle.
You don't want to be watching 60 Minutes on Sunday, October 5, and hear the following:
Arnold: "I brought pain into my marriage..."
Maria: "I'm not just some Tammy Wynette standing by my man..."
I pointed out in another reply that Arnold is ignorant of the "gun control" in Kalifornia that he claims to support. How long until we hear Arnold question what the meaning of "shall not be infringed" is?
I've had to accustom myself to hearing Demoncrats lie to get elected. I will not support a lying "Republican".
Not before October 7, I'll bet.
Here is another snippet from the interview you quoted:
In the case of the California freeway killers, I think the big mistake is that people keep guns in their glove compartments. The deal with that is, when you have a permit, you're always supposed to keep your ammunition and your gun separate, so if you get emotional, by the time you get your gun from the glove compartment and your ammunition out of your trunk, you have a chance to cool down.
Arnold's Second Amendment:
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed unless we think that they might become emotional."
Yet again Arnold reveals his ignorance of gun laws in Kalifornia. If you have a carry permit, you may conceal the loaded firearm any way you wish. Such permits are extremely rare in most counties in Kalifornia.
The glove box is specifically disallowed as a place that a firearm may be stored by a person without a carry permit. Without a permit the gun must be locked in a container and separate from the ammunition. And the firearm may only be transported for purposes of legitimate use ( to or from a firearm dealer,to or from a range, on a hunting trip), and may not be stored routinely in the vehicle.
I believe that the first violation of this law can be treated as a misdemeanor and any later violation a felony.
(Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, just a Kalifornia gun owner trying to keep and bear arms without going to jail.)
I don't care where his heart is. I am trying to find his brain.
His ignorance of Kalifornia gun laws aside, he is suggesting that self-defense is compatible with having an unloaded gun in a locked compartment.
Not too long ago I read that several million dollars a year are spent providing security for the seven highest office holders in Kalifornia. You don't believe that their guards have unloaded guns stored in locked compartments, do you?
I am repeating myself, in this pathetic comment on your creative talent, regarding which, I can only admire your effort, knowledge and talent, regarding your family tree, or someone's tree, or whatever.
"You don't invite me over for coffee, you don't even pay me the sign of respect. Yet you say that you're my friend?"
Tom McClintock sleeps with the fishes....
Be Seeing You,
Chris
Imagine, accusing the AM's of supporting a RINO.
You have captured perfectly the image projected by the McClintock campaign. He comes across as a pathetic whiner.
"Mommy, Mommy, Pete Wilson called me naaaames."
I don't smoke. I've just paid attention to the Republicans on FR for quite a while and drawn this conclusion. As this thread clearly demonstrates.
You can safely compare a Conservative Christian with the terrorist that flew the planes 9/11.
No Abuse here, just an acceptable, normal response I guess.
Like I said before, if this was directed towards a:
Homosexual,
a Black Man,
a Mormon,
a Scientologist,
or GWB it would have been pulled.
But this behavior (Chritain Bashing) is acceptable and even applauded here on the Free Republic and elsewhere in society today.
I meant what I said, I said what I meant, this Republican is Faithfull one hundred percent.
"The joke was...I don't think there is such a thing a "Red Dog Democrat"???
LOL!! Irony.
The real Irony here is that you answered your own question a few posts ago and did not even realise it. Such is the life of the "Ill-Informed".
People have been asking that question about fieldmarshaldj's posts since the day he first registered here. Then re-registered. Then re-registered ...
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