McClintock Key to Democratic Victory in California

Intellectual Conservative.com ^ | 9/2/3 | Bob Chandra

[Scott from the Left Coast]

Yeah, I can be serious...this isn't going to be a classic partisan election. To a certain extent Arnold is going to split both the Democrat vote with Bustamante, grab the lion's share of Independents and split the Republican vote with McClintock. He'll get more R's than D's -- with or without McClintock in the race, but the Independents and fiscally conservative Democrats (not fiscal conservative by our standards, but definitely conservative by Democrat standards) will be his margin of victory, if he wins.

Arnold's only going to get a minor slice of votes on the hard right -- some small evidence of that you see right here on these threads. That's true whether McClinock is in the race or out.

Arnold is only threatened by McClintock if the center (his center) is too small to overcome the left. It's hard to imagine any instance where Arnold could cobble together the center and the hard right. Neither will tolerate the other very well -- they're very apart on nearly everything. As long as he stays in the center, he'll only get so many on the hard right anyway, it'll be some but not a huge amount and a McClintock exit probably won't boost those numbers tremendously anyway.

Arnold's salvation has to be in the center...and his people have to be calculating that the center is big enough to do the job for him.

[Tempest]

LOL!!! Thanks for the warning. Somehow I can see your predictions coming true.

[Cultural Jihad]

~ping~ Tune in!

[sruleoflaw]

Save the smart remarks -- and as I wrote in post no. 296, you folks needs to start getting your facts right.

[fieldmarshaldj]

It's sad with so many of these people. We can see 'em bellyaching back in '66, "George Christopher is the ONLY Republican who can beat Pat Brown ! Reagan will only ensure Pat gets another term just like that "loser" Nixon !" Ah-nold is the George Christopher in this race, but at least in da Mayor's defense, he didn't have "outercourse" with underage girls.

[A Broken Glass Republican]

Close...

Those who have been BURNED by them via Simon and then McClintock will be throwing them off of them.

[Cultural Jihad]

Thanks for the clarification. Food for thought.

[Poohbah]

Only clueless dorks use all caps and repeat the same mantra three times. And Tom McClintock has already wasted three weeks that he could not afford to lose.

If Arnold can't win, then McClintock can't even draw double digits.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I've told friends to avoid walking past tall buildings October 8th if McClintock doesn't win. Members of the McClintock Kool-Aid Kult will be throwing themselves off of them...

On the good side, there won't be but a few.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Don't you mean "Ah-nold" cult supporters ? ;-)

[A Broken Glass Republican]

Someone needs to record this.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

I just saw local poll results on one of the area TV channels (ABC-30 Fresno).

Question: Does it hurt Arnold Schwarzeneggar to skip some of the debates?

Yes - 71%

No - 29%

This is a conservative, majority Republican area.

[Reagan Man]

>>While you are quoting FR poll, you didn't quote the most relevant one, that as many people support Arnold, as McClintock. Which proves either that half of the conservatives are sensible, or that half of the people on FR are Dem shills.

Well, that cuts two ways. How about the half voting for Tom McClintock are sensible and reasonable conservatives and loyal rank and file Republicans. The half voting for Arnold are RINO's, liberal disruptors and delusional Republicans setting aside their principles to support Arnold the liberal.

I like my interpretation better then yours.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Damn the facts ! Vote the RINO ! ;-)

[ApesForEvolution]

"This is a REPUBLICAN forum."

I've been away tending to the real world awhile, so I admit that if FR went 100% Freaking Republican while I was gone that I missed it.

I thought it was a Conservative forum, of which many Republicans should feel right at home...

[Poohbah]

Save the smart remarks

It is far better to make smart remarks than stupid ones.

-- and as I wrote in post no. 296, you folks needs to start getting your facts right.

I didn't post that thread, nor did I reply to it, so why don't you just quit lecturing others about the need to get facts right?

[habs4ever]

Tom will bring that winning formula to his new gig selling used cars off lease.... "Come deal with Tom coz we guarantee no one will lose more on selling you a car than us!"

Maybe I'm overlooking all his natural dynamism from his TV appearances.He could be a hit selling cars ;-)

Tom McClintock,the Un-Candidate....

[jmstein7]

Lol!

Reagan is a very special guy, and the only person like him *IS* him.

Well... MAYBE Rush, if he eventually landed in politics, though Gip is more articulate and uses better grammar.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Why should the RINO debate when Busty is there to take all of his "positions" ?

[Tempest]

My pet dog called Ray Haynes and he tells me that he does support Arnold. Hence I think that you must be lying. . .