[Rabid Dog]

If that is true then it should be a simple matter to clean up their philisophy and clear the record on their mission, goals and activities. Unfortunately for them, on every website I have looked at (couple of dozen), they clearly state their racist position and desire to reclaim what is their's.

To not expect them to be accountable for their words is demeaning to them.

[hchutch]

Yeah, but I'll be quite honest, I'm not too sure I like a lot of the rhetoric that comes from the immigration reform crowd, either.

I'm just about at the point of declaring a pox on both houses.

[Poohbah]

If that is true then it should be a simple matter to clean up their philisophy and clear the record on their mission, goals and activities.

Philosophy: stupid and evil.

Mission: high-order ones not achievable due to delusions of grandeur. Low-order ones consist of meeting other persons of (usually) opposite gender who are away from home for the first time and willing to cast off those "bourgeouis" notions of morality their parents yammer about.

Goals: see Mission.

Activities: renting lots of buses to move from rally to rally so that they look like a bigger group than they really are (the chess club at some CSUs is bigger than the local MeChA outfit), appearing at rallies (if the TV cameras show up), and intellectual onanism.

[Pelham]

The more I look at MECHA and some of these hard-line immigration "reform" groups, the more I'm convinced both are "sound and fury, signifying nothing."

This is just more "wisdom" from a dilletante living comfortably a few thousand miles from California. East Coast kids know all about Mexico, they've eaten at Taco Bell, after all, and some of them have actually heard Spanish spoken. When they're old enough to drive they may even come out to the barrio and hang with the homies, knock back a few cervezas, and tag the neighborhood.