[Pelham]

I wouldn't say that all MEChA members can be so classified or would I make Cruz guilty for a 30 year old association.

The motto of MEChA is Por la Raza todo, fuera de la Raza nada. "For the Race everything, outside the Race nothing." They don't hide it, it's their organizing principle. And they have goals for their "race". It's Mexican reconquest of the territory lost in the Mexican American War.

If people want to excuse MEChA because it's founded upon latino racism and not white racism, then they should say so. But they shouldn't blind themselves to what this organization is all about. It's racial, political, and has a seditious plan for "liberating Aztlan", the "A" in MEChA, which at least for a few more years happens to be the southwestern United States. It may happen that the massive demographic changes due to illegal immigration will effect MEChA's goals, it's surely what has been happening in southern California.

Germans dismissed a small, racist political organization with grand territorial plans some 80 years ago, and that turned out badly. There's no good reason to see if this latest racial separatist movement is going to be even a pale imitation of that disaster. And Californians have been badly served by a political class too craven to deal with the problem.

[Dolphy]

I didn't say I discounted it, in fact I said just the opposite. However I don't know that MEChA recruits based on its extremist objectives or that 30 years ago, without the benefit of the internet, a kid wouldn't join for educational support or rather innocent ethnic identity reasons. (You can correct me if you know differently, but sifting through literature produced 30 years after the fact isn't alone convincing of what was going on with MECha or how they actually operated or recruited members.)

Having said this, I do believe Bustamante should address it. Last night I posted this on another thread, it says he won't denounce MEChA. And the tone only tells me there is more to it than not. (From Aztlan)