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Collar Key In Deliveryman Death (Erie pizza delivery bank robbery bomber)
CBS/AP ^ | 9-2-2003 | no byline

Posted on 09/02/2003 11:44:52 AM PDT by weegee

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To: viligantcitizen
I saw an editorial from GoErie.com that included the observation that the authorities are being stingy with details in this case.
203 posted on 09/03/2003 7:23:20 AM PDT by weegee
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To: Aussie Cattledog
From the artist's renditions, it looks like it would have been possible to slip some kevlar from a cops vest up under the device, possibly saving his life. Maybe next time, someone will think of that.
204 posted on 09/03/2003 7:26:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: csvset
focusing on three possible scenarios:

-Wells committed the act alone.

-Wells was a willing participant with others.

If he acted alone, who placed the phone call?

Phone records should be able to show who placed calls to the pizza place that day. Look 'em up.

206 posted on 09/03/2003 7:36:10 AM PDT by weegee
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To: csvset
That diagram is incomplete. It doesn't show how the wires loop throught the collar itself (see the red, yellow, and green)



207 posted on 09/03/2003 7:39:24 AM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
This story becomes stranger by the day.
208 posted on 09/03/2003 7:39:55 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Travis McGee
From viewing the end result, it looks like only this dude was supposed to die. With four locks, the dude KNEW the bomb squad wouldn't have the time to get it off anyways.

We still don't know how it was detonated (Do we?).

Someone mentioned that he was a quiet bachelor and worked on his car alot...which may mean mechanical abilities.

Part of the device looks like it was "cut to fit" particularly around the tumbler locks.

The guy wanted to get on National TV.

Some interested party is watching somewhere.

209 posted on 09/03/2003 7:40:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: weegee
Geez, I forgot about that!! THE PHONE CALL!!!!!!!!
210 posted on 09/03/2003 7:43:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: weegee
A preliminary exam performed on the collar showed that it was likely not commercially manufactured

And to think he gets paid for such a brilliant deduction...

211 posted on 09/03/2003 7:45:31 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Aussie Cattledog
The possible gun found on Wells isn't surprising. Many delivery people carry some sort of protection. Think about it - late night deliveries (no, this one wasn't), unknown neighborhoods, who knows what's behind the door, easy robbery targets, etc.
212 posted on 09/03/2003 7:52:40 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: mtbopfuyn
Not a lot of calls for "bomb collars" in THIS country. But that doesn't mean that it wasn't concocted using manufactured parts. I think we can see welds and cuts so.

I'm still waiting for them to publish a "full face" of this dude and whether he is appearing in their database. They must have tons of clear face shots before he bit the dust.

Why are they soooooo silent on this??

213 posted on 09/03/2003 7:54:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
"We still don't know how it was detonated (Do we?)."

Keyed mechanical timer.

214 posted on 09/03/2003 7:54:47 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Herman Cain for Senator.)
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To: weegee; csvset
"That diagram is incomplete. It doesn't show how the wires loop throught the collar itself (see the red, yellow, and green)."

Since the explosive was located right up under the lock box, the only reason to thread the wires through the collar itself is to keep the device from being cut off with some sort of torch.

215 posted on 09/03/2003 7:58:23 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Herman Cain for Senator.)
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To: viligantcitizen
That's what the dead dude said but I haven't heard where they have confirmed that.
217 posted on 09/03/2003 7:59:01 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
There should also be video of the bank robbery. Maybe he was carrying the gun (or prop gun) in the bank.

Where is the usual driver's license photo of the dead man?

219 posted on 09/03/2003 7:59:54 AM PDT by weegee
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