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Your entire post confirms that you are confused about the nature of knowledge and the digital revolution, Wilson. I myself have NEVER once used a CD or DVD downloading service or scheme, though I am fully capable of utilizing such things to the max, being a highly proficient computer geek type.

I have found that with the music collection I have now, I can just make CD copies within my own collection and leave the RIAA & its allies to go hang. I have no interest in contributing a nickel toward their financial well-being. This is the revolution I'm talking about - people have enough media now to stay within their own little circle of entertainment without purchasing any more. I have enough books, VHS tapes, CDs, cassettes, vinyl and DVDs to boycott the information Nazis. Screw them - they could have implemented micropayment-type schemes by now, but they're only interested in getting a double sawbuck for the "privilege" of cutting out the middleman. It's like charging 10 bucks every time you use an ATM. They're going to pay for their lack of vision.

And if you don't cut the crap about "why would you need a backup copy", Wilson, I'll label you a troll on the RIAA threads. One of my grandchildren trashed a brand-new DVD from The Fellowship extended edition before I even viewed it. My wife rented a DVD this week, and we were watching it tonight when it burped several times. She laughed when I told her about your post.

I'm running into too many Freepers these days who are trolling on certain subjects. It's BS, and I'm tired of it. You want to have a discussion, fine. I don't need your kind cluttering up the discourse with cow pies. Debate in good faith.

supercat - I flagged you because I know you're in my league when it comes to this stuff, and because you're willing to discuss it fairly. :-)

I agree with all you have said, until you talk about books.

People don't usually borrow a book from the library and then xerox all of the pages. But, they do xerox the pages they need, and generally are able to attribute those pages to the original source. Do authors truly care if you have pages 3-45 xeroxed and in your file cabinet?

If this is legal, then why wouldn't it be legal to rent a DVD from Blockbuster and then copy it?

Or, am I missing a key part of the argument, here?

One of my grandchildren trashed a brand-new DVD from The Fellowship extended edition before I even viewed it.

Arrrggghh! You have my sympathies.

I thought I'd scored this past weekend when I found "The Two Towers" DVD for $14.99.

When I got it home my wife filled me in as to why it was so cheap. On the back of the box it says one of the features is "special 10 minute behind the scenes preview of the extended director's cut version".