Posted on 09/02/2003 7:42:46 AM PDT by kattracks
So are you going to hold Franks to the same standard?
How much of that cash is going to the victims families? Why are they less deserving of the million bucks?
Should Franks redistribute his income also?
You can dance around and cloud the situation with gender isssues but I don't have any hang-ups about it.
You brought it up, I didn't. Now you have to live with the fact that you revealed what you're really angry about...that she's female.
It's terrible that this former soldier isn't showing her appreciation for the heroes that rescued her.
So she should be a slave to them for the rest of her life? You keep saying that Lynch was just doing her job and shouldn't be appreciated for her sacrifices. Why should the rescuers be appreciated? They were just doing their job also. You are inconsistent in every way.
Ever consider that the Army told her to keep quiet until they got things cleared?
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for legalized prostitution. But I don't call it something it aint.
So she's a prostitute? You Lynch haters have no class at all. Is Franks a prostitute?
Number 3 Loser and others need to get real girlfriends and stop worrying about sticking up for poor little Je$$ica. The truth is, she seems the type that wouldn't give them the time of day. Not even if they saved her life. Well, unless they could bring the CASH.
You people just drip for hate against this POW and we can see what you're real problem is, that Lynch threatens your manhood. You know that she's done more than you ever will.
Why aren't you holding Franks to the same standard?
She can do what ever she wants. My point is, just because a person CAN do something doesn't always mean that they should. There are ethical and moral responsibilities that we all must consider.
So you are a socialists that wants to tell other people how to spend their money. Give us an itemized budget of the things you've spent money on so we can judge you. If you don't, you're a hypocrite.
He was not directly involved in this particular incident with this one small team getting lost. He's brilliant, but he's not a micromanager.
So if a soldier gets involved in a firefight, they should never write a book? You're making this up as you go because you're angry that she's a female. Franks has never been in combat? He's selling his life's memoirs, not just a story about his latest position. Is his book dripping with the blood of those that served under him and with him, like you say about Lynch serving with her equals?
And his story, in his own words can be easily found in many interviews and articles. He's not holding out for an exclusive rights deal, he's an honorable man.
Exclusive rights? So the profits from his book will be reditributed socialistically like you want so much? Why write a book if we know everything already? You are a supreme example of inconsistency.
Was Franks's sexual appeal the basis for his making money? No. Why don't you call it like it is man?
You people just drip for hate against this POW and we can see what you're real problem is, that Lynch threatens your manhood. You know that she's done more than you ever will.
Uh huh. She cowered and pleaded for her life. She, as a woman, resorted to whatever she needed to resort to in order to stay alive (very understandably). She his under the covers while the men risked their lives to save her.
Yeah, this really threatens me. Yeahhhhhhh uh huh .... Where do you freaks come up with this stuff? I think Je$$y can do okay without you, Number 3 Loser.
Lynch was a world renown fashion model before she was rescued? That's news to me.
Uh huh. She cowered and pleaded for her life. She, as a woman, resorted to whatever she needed to resort to in order to stay alive (very understandably).
As I said, you Lynch haters have no class at all.
She his under the covers while the men risked their lives to save her.
And you were over here when a female soldier was sacrificing for her country. That just eats away at you, doesn't it?
Yeah, this really threatens me. Yeahhhhhhh uh huh .... Where do you freaks come up with this stuff? I think Je$$y can do okay without you, Number 3 Loser.
LOL. I hit a nerve with that one. She's done more than you ever will, she's done more than you ever will....trying to make your head explode. Don't worry maybe you can save a cat from a tree, show how manly you are, make you feel better.
You Je$$y-lovers have no perspective. The only reason she joined the army was to make $$$$$. She wanted to use the army for $$$ and then become a school teacher. The last thing she ever dreamed of was going into combat for her country. She had no intention of this ever happening.
I think you need to find someone to protect, like maybe a girlfriend would be good. Some power-hungry opportunist who will never acknowledge you, even if you save her life, is not what you need in your life. Take my advice Number 3 Loser.
I don't know what she has done, besides cowering under covers, probably getting tortured, raped (again, this is a tragedy), and sell-out a book for $$$$$ when she can't remember anything.
I guess you're right, in some ways she has done more than I ever will, or hope to do. Why don't you fantasize a little more about Je$$y, you seem to enjoy it. I say, go for it, Number 3 Loser.
As do most males.
She wanted to use the army for $$$ and then become a school teacher. The last thing she ever dreamed of was going into combat for her country. She had no intention of this ever happening.
True or not, she was in maintenance (just combat support) and she did go when called.
I think you need to find someone to protect, like maybe a girlfriend would be good. Some power-hungry opportunist who will never acknowledge you, even if you save her life, is not what you need in your life. Take my advice Number 3 Loser
LOL I'm not the one threatened by Lynch, you are.
She went to hostile territory to keep the equipment running that our soldiers need and then had to sacrifice her good health. Much more than you did.
...and sell-out a book for $$$$$ when she can't remember anything.
Why aren't you holding Franks to the same standard? Plus, did you ever consider that the Army told her to keep quiet until they got things cleared?
I guess you're right, in some ways she has done more than I ever will,...
Hence, your hatred of her.
...or hope to do. Why don't you fantasize a little more about Je$$y, you seem to enjoy it. I say, go for it, Number 3 Loser.
LOL What's the Jackass got to do with it?
I thought you were talking about the race extortioner. Get over your jealousy. You're posts are good to show how low-class you Lynch haters are though.
So you are a socialists that wants to tell other people how to spend their money. Give us an itemized budget of the things you've spent money on so we can judge you. If you don't, you're a hypocrite.
So having ethical and moral concerns = socialist in your mind. Thanks for clearing that up.
Why aren't you holding Franks to the same standard?
Which standard is this? I hold them both to the same standards of human decency.
So if a soldier gets involved in a firefight, they should never write a book?
This was much more than just a firefight, this was a unique situation; they don't offer million dollar book deals for firefights. I'm supposed to be supremely inconsistant, and yet you are the one tossing out false analogies right and left.
Ethics deal with an individual's personal sorting of right and wrong. Morals deal with society's ideas of right and wrong. The Lynch situation is an uncommon one, hence it falls largerly into the catagory of ethics. Therefore, it doesn't make sense to take the ethical issues of this one special situation and try to apply it to other generalized areas (Franks, firefights) since what happened with her is pretty much unique in the history of warfare.
Your argument is that because it's unique, a book is the best medium to tell her story. I pretty much agree with that. What I don't agree with is that the people that rescued her and the families of the people who died trying to rescue her are being treated less than they deserve. If I were in that situation (Lynch's) and had her level of clout and power, I would work to help the families and heroes every way I could. But that's my ethical makeup, not hers. There's nothing socialist about helping out the people who directly saved your life, and the survivors of those who sacrficed their lives for you... it's simply being humane.
In the grand scheme of things, my arguing isn't helping anyone. I've said all I wanted to say about it. At least the man who tipped off the military about Lynch did a wonderful thing and will never have to worry about money again. That's a great thing. Maybe these other things didn't pan out the way I would have preferred, but the real important ethical decision fell to the tipper and he did the right thing.
Anyway, I'm done on this topic.
take it easy and good luck!
When it involves managing other people's money, yes.
Which standard is this? I hold them both to the same standards of human decency.
So you think that Franks is immoral also?
This was much more than just a firefight, this was a unique situation; they don't offer million dollar book deals for firefights. I'm supposed to be supremely inconsistant, and yet you are the one tossing out false analogies right and left.
No, you said she shouldn't write a book because she was in a firefight.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ethics deal with an individual's personal sorting of right and wrong. Morals deal with society's ideas of right and wrong. The Lynch situation is an uncommon one, hence it falls largerly into the catagory of ethics. Therefore, it doesn't make sense to take the ethical issues of this one special situation and try to apply it to other generalized areas (Franks, firefights) since what happened with her is pretty much unique in the history of warfare.
LOL You're just flat-out inconsistent.
Your argument is that because it's unique, a book is the best medium to tell her story. I pretty much agree with that. What I don't agree with is that the people that rescued her and the families of the people who died trying to rescue her are being treated less than they deserve.
So you would like to see socialist wealth redistribution to take care of these inequalities you're imagining?
If I were in that situation (Lynch's) and had her level of clout and power, I would work to help the families and heroes every way I could. But that's my ethical makeup, not hers. There's nothing socialist about helping out the people who directly saved your life, and the survivors of those who sacrficed their lives for you... it's simply being humane.
It's socialist to complain about someone getting more money than others in the free market. The soldiers around her were just doing their job like she was. You guys say that Lynch doesn't deserve attention for just doing her job, and if that's the case, why do the others deserve the profits when they were just doing their job also? Why does Lynch have to be their slave for the rest of her life? They were all there to do their duty. It was Lynch's duty to work on Patriot systems and fight when attacked (if able) in hostile territory, it what she was paid to do. It's her fellow soldier's and her rescuers duty to work on Patriots/fight when attacked and rescue Americans who may be taken POW respectively. I'm not seeing where anyone went above and beyond the call of duty here.
In the grand scheme of things, my arguing isn't helping anyone. I've said all I wanted to say about it. At least the man who tipped off the military about Lynch did a wonderful thing and will never have to worry about money again. That's a great thing. Maybe these other things didn't pan out the way I would have preferred, but the real important ethical decision fell to the tipper and he did the right thing.
On that we can agree.
Anyway, I'm done on this topic. take it easy and good luck!
Thanks. You too.
Here's your words in post #125: Her true character will be shown in how she spends the money,...
I never said one thing about her morality.
Yes, you said her morality will depend on how she spend her money. That's a ridiculous thing to say and you're being a hypocrite for not showing your itemized budget so we can judge you as you would judge others.
I said she would be judged by her actions. Period. We all are. You are yapping at the wrong guy – AGAIN I DO NOT CARE HOW SHE SPENDS THE MONEY.
In post #125, you said her character would be judged on how she spends her money. Let's see your itemized budget so we can apply the same to you.
I have said it over and over. I NEVER said if she did not spend it my way she was not moral. NEVER. I see you are not posting any quotes.
In post #125, you said her character depends on how she spends the money.
I am NOT a Lynch complainer. I said that she was not a Hero IMO and that her character will be judged by her actions. Everyone is watching and judgments will be made. You are over the top man.
No, you said her character depends on how she spends the money.
Why would I have to show my budget? I am not calling for Lynch’s budget – I DO NOT CARE HOW SHE SPENDS THE MONEY.
Read post #125.
I hope she buys a house and a Luxury SUV; whatever makes her happy – it is her money and I have never said otherwise. You are a Liar.
You can't remeber the things you posted.
I DO NOT CARE HOW SHE SPENDS THE MONEY. I DO NOT CARE HOW SHE SPENDS THE MONEY. I DO NOT CARE. I am not judging her spending habits – BUT IT WILL BE DONE – I never said I would be the one to do it.
LOL, Nice ending. I guess we have to read the fine print on the back page in your posts, huh? YOU DON'T CARE, YOU DON'T CARE, YOU DON'T CARE, but others do. Hilarious.
You really need to get a life.
A life of judging people by their budgets?
My gosh, dude, if your going to get involved in the serious business of judging people, at least try to remember the things you post.
I think this poster is so high strung that he is attacking anyone who does not have a glowing opinion of the PFC.
They don't have to have a glowing opinion, I'm just checking for consistency. All my posts are checking for consistency. If more people would try to be consistent, there wouldn't be so much hate and jealousy displayed.
Why people have to get so frenzied I will never understand. Lord knows I never do it! ;~)
It's the nature of a person that is politically aware. Most of us here don't go through life not paying attention to things. We notice when someone is being treated unfairly and will say something.
In bold above. Pasted from post #125.
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