[Polycarp]

I know all that Sink. Do you at least grasp the point I'm trying to make here? You can't kill a pernicious weed if you don't know it has, or fail to attack, its taproot. Its like fighting dandelions. If you pull off the top every day for a year, you'll still have a dandelion in your yard at the end of the year.

But if you attack its central root, you'll get rid of it.

We've been "pulling the top off dandelions" for 3 decades in the pro-life movement, and the general movement to this day refuses to admit to the existence of the taproot of abortion.

The entire movement either a) is ignorant of the fact the taproot exists or b) knows it exists but refuses to admit or conceive of the fact that if you don't kill the roots, you won't kill the weed. Frankly, I think certain Catholics are just too embarassed to point out the taproot, for fear of ridicule among by the rest of the dumbed down movement.

I want to kill the weed, not continue to pop off its head each day for another 3 decades only to see another or several grow in its place, just because of political expediency. If it can't be done politically, then its time for pro-lifers to pull outta politics and re evangelize the culture about the roots of abortion, which is and always will be the contraceptive mentality.

[sinkspur]

If it can't be done politically, then its time for pro-lifers to pull outta politics and re evangelize the culture about the roots of abortion, which is and always will be the contraceptive mentality.

Brian, this is an even larger uphill climb than arguing against abortion.

Contraception is a settled issue with the vast majority of the population.

Abortion is a much more grievous act than contraception, and contraception doesn't, of necessity, lead to abortions.

This is a Quixote-like quest.

[fourdeuce82d]

I just want to get something straight- are you suggesting that unless each and every sexual act I engage in, even with my spouse, is intended to result in pregnancy, I'm a naughty person?

If that's the case, you and the pro life movement can get stuffed. I have sympathy for a living person that has yet to be born- I do not for my billions of little swimmers.

[ninenot]

You have identified the reason for the existence of American Life League (Wisconsin's is called Pro-Life Wisconsin) vs. the Right to Life organization, which is the RINO group.

RTL has done good work, and they are good people--but the time has come to take it up a step--you are correct.