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To: nmh
I'm not a Catholic and could never be one since I rely on Scripture alone.

Indeed! No one who only breathes with one lung when God obviously gave us two should call themselves Catholic ;-)

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In the New Testament, every single word of which was written by individual members of the Catholic Church, the word Church is used 110 times to refer to the VISIBLE BODY of Christian Catholics. In the New Testament, the word Scripture(s) is used 54 times.

In ONLY ONE of these 54 uses is it even POSSIBLE that it refers to the NT itself :

(2 Peter 3) "And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation: as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you:

16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 You therefore, brethren, knowing these things before, take heed, lest being led aside by the error of the unwise, you fall from your own steadfastness.

Isn't it INTERESTING that the SOLE SCRIPTURE reference for Scripture having to do with the New Testament POSITIVELY REFUTES SOLA SCRIPTURA and private interpretation of scripture?

328 posted on 09/10/2003 9:51:39 AM PDT by Polycarp ([Mel] Gibson said of the columnist, "I want his intestines on a stick. I want to kill his dog.")
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To: Polycarp
You: In the New Testament, every single word of which was written by individual members of the Catholic Church, the word Church is used 110 times to refer to the VISIBLE BODY of Christian Catholics. In the New Testament, the word Scripture(s) is used 54 times.

LOL! In those days there were no such thing as a Catholic, or a Protestant but you may believe what you wish. The word "church" is the body of believers. Catholic as you misuse it is not in the Bible at all.

You: In ONLY ONE of these 54 uses is it even POSSIBLE that it refers to the NT itself : (2 Peter 3) "And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation: as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction. 17 You therefore, brethren, knowing these things before, take heed, lest being led aside by the error of the unwise, you fall from your own steadfastness. Isn't it INTERESTING that the SOLE SCRIPTURE reference for Scripture having to do with the New Testament POSITIVELY REFUTES SOLA SCRIPTURA and private interpretation of scripture?

You completley lost me here. What is your point?

Are you suggesting that Scripture denies itself. Are you also suggesting that the Bible is not plain enough for a person to read? Please explain because the Bible does NOT suggest either.

355 posted on 09/12/2003 9:33:27 PM PDT by nmh
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