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To: John Beresford Tipton
All of Christianity, protestant, Orthodox, Catholic, always rejected contraception as sinful. Only in 1930 did ANY Christian sect EVER say contraception could be not sinful (The Anglicans, look where they are now.) "Contra" = against. "Ception" = life." When you have a "contraceptive failure" what exactly DO you have? A baby.

How does one repair this "failure"? Abort the baby. Abortion was legalized due to widespread acceptance of contraceptive use and the anti-baby mentality that naturally, logically, and always flows from it. The legal construct of a so-called "right to privacy" that was invented (it simply DOES NOT EXIST in the constitution) to overturn the remaining statutes banning contraceptive sales is the same one that was used to legalize abortion in Roe vs Wade and the same one that was used in Lawrence to grant carte blanc to the homosexual juggernaut.

I'm talking about evangelizing the pro-life movement itself so it can finally address the root of the abortion conundrum: the contraceptive anti-life mentality upon which the rest of the culture of death has sprung and found its legal footing.

27 posted on 09/01/2003 8:27:48 PM PDT by Polycarp (When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: Polycarp
OK. The SCOTUS did use contraception in their arguments permitting abortion, but that does not mean you need to convince the American public---especially the Protestant public--that contraception is bad in order to make headway on repealing abortion.

For many folks, like myself, I see a big moral difference between preventing fertilization of an egg and killing a baby in its mother's womb. We may disagree on the theology behind my position, but it seems we agree on stopping abortions.

Therefore, I would argue this article is interesting but wrong. Roe vs Wade is only one SC vote away from being overturned, and more than half of American's polled, according to Planned Parenthood itself (Alan Guttenmacher Institute), believe it should only be legal in the case of the life of the mother. We should keep working with that part of the population to further our cause. My bet is contraception will never be outlawed by any decision the SC makes.

32 posted on 09/01/2003 8:48:04 PM PDT by Proud Legions
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To: Polycarp
Dr. Kopp, allow me to add another point to this discussion regarding the contraception industry and their knowledge, re conception/contraception.

A few deacdes ago, I worked for a pharmaceutical company that pioneered in contraception. As a sales rep, I was expected to sell 'birth control pills' as well as IUD's. We sales reps were trained to perceive birth control as contraception and the possibility of ending a conceived new individual was down-played and omitted from our extensive training and educational preparation.

It was not until I began asking questions of my Regional Manager that I began to realize the IUD's were primarily abortifacient devices. When I confided to my manager that I could not in good conscience sell these items any longer, he took the time to finish my education on 'birth control pills'.

We reps were not told during our training that the hormone pills actually also worked as abortifacients on occasion. The industry knew full well that their products worked as abotifacients on occasion, but that truth was a well guarded secret from the sales field and the non-physician folks we contacted regularly.

A conscious omission of facts and truth is a sure sign that someone knew what they were trying to train the public to rely upon was averse to society's values system of the time, and an effort to bring about acceptance of the products was primary before the full truths would be allowed a full airing. Even today, many do not realize how the pills and IUD's work.

The same process of deceptive omission of truths regarding the embryonic individual human being is used to further the 'development' of embryonic stem cell exploitation and human cloning for harvesting in therapies. ... America is moving from murder, inc. to cannibalism light. It all has origins in contraceptive practices, artificial and in vitro fertilization methods, and abortion on demand. The dehumanization of the earliest age in a human beings lifetime has resulted in the deep slope of degeneration of human life value. Sadly, my friend, it doesn't appear that a leap to the light is now possible, so we must undertake a climb out from the funneled slope toward the abyss.

33 posted on 09/01/2003 8:53:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Polycarp
"Ception" = life"
The -ception in conception and contraception comes from the verb capere, meaning (1) to capture, catch, grapple; (2) to get, lay hold of, pick up, take.
57 posted on 09/02/2003 10:16:45 AM PDT by eastsider
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