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To: Dajjal
Oh, this is too funny (not the news, which is not good, but the coincidence with Thread 245):

The Church's statement on this development is "Anything that separates procreative from unitive is inherently evil. We've been saying this for hundreds of years. So what else is new?" This pill does that, even if it doesn't have abortificant potential (does anyone know?).

I also thought a few days ago that the Church MIGHT be okey-dokey with a "mythical" egg-preventing pill (so much for "mythical"). That's obviously not the case.

It seems clear that the Church has three fundamental and clear positions:
- You don't take life in the womb.
- You don't snuff out a life just because it hasn't implanted itself.
- You don't mess with Mother Nature (Natural Law) in the reproductive process, except in "grave or serious" situations (the definition of which is subject to at least some debate).

Most of society buys into #1. People who bother to understand what's involved buy into #2. The American Church at least has done a lousy job of explaining #3. Very few are even aware of #3, and almost no one buys into it. This is not a good thing.
248 posted on 09/09/2003 5:14:03 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: litany_of_lies
Since I can't ping Poly,

I'm sorry for my prior bad attitude, litany_of_lies. I've got too much on my plate and on my mind here the past 2 weeks, I'm not spending enough time in prayer, and I just didn't have the patience or the grace to answer you as I should have. My apologies. If you desire to continue this debate with me, consider my prior rant withdrawn. If not, I understand.

you'll forgive me if "your" position struck me as a reactionary and unwarranted extension of Church teaching. It obviously isn't, which leads me to wonder why the Church, at least the American Church, has been so gung-ho on rhythm and NFP all these years without pointing out its proper place.

I also thought a few days ago that the Church MIGHT be okey-dokey with a "mythical" egg-preventing pill (so much for "mythical"). That's obviously not the case.

It seems clear that the Church has three fundamental and clear positions:

- You don't take life in the womb.
- You don't snuff out a life just because it hasn't implanted itself.
- You don't mess with Mother Nature (Natural Law) in the reproductive process, except in "grave or serious" situations (the definition of which is subject to at least some debate).

Most of society buys into #1. People who bother to understand what's involved buy into #2. The American Church at least has done a lousy job of explaining #3. Very few are even aware of #3, and almost no one buys into it. This is not a good thing.

You are a good soul, litany_of_lies.

Good summary...now we have lots of common ground ;-)

274 posted on 09/09/2003 7:53:12 PM PDT by Polycarp ("Lex mala, lex nulla." (An evil law, is no law). --Thomas Aquinas)
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