[litany_of_lies]

Kopp, thank you for your contribution to the forum.

As a pro-lifer, I absolutely agree with the contraception-abortion linkage, and that the pro-life movement MAY have made a mistake in the late 60s to ignore contraception and concentrate only on abortion. If that policy stance had taken place, the pro-life movement would (accurately) have been perceived as a "Catholic-only" movement. It could have influenced the mainstream and moved opinion generally against contraception, at least morally (probably not legally), OR it could have made the pro-life movement into a meaningless fringe group. Given the dominance of libs in the pre-Internet media, I personally think the latter would have occurred, but we'll never know.

The real question is what to do now in 2003. Is it more important to concentrate on outlawing abortion and euthanasia, or is it more important to go for the entire pro-life enchilada, including a ban on contraception? I believe the former is achievable legislatively pretty quickly (saving 1.4 million babies a year), and that the latter will NEVER be achieved legislatively (OK, maybe in 50 years), but instead will occur after decades of changing hearts and minds.

The latter requires a wholesale turnaround of almost all Protestant religions and a return of Catholicism to its orthodox roots before a legislative solution can even be considered. Going for the whole enchilada now, IMHO, guarantees that the abortion holocaust will continue indefinitely.

[Polycarp]

Who is talking about "banning" contraception?!? I'm talking about education and evangelization of the "pro-life" movement ITSELF!

The latter requires a wholesale turnaround of almost all Protestant religions and a return of Catholicism to its orthodox roots before a legislative solution can even be considered.

This is exactly what its going to take to turn around just abortion.

Going for the whole enchilada now, IMHO, guarantees that the abortion holocaust will continue indefinitely.

If Christianity does not return to its roots on all of moral theology, including contraception, it will be a moot point.

The modern culture of death is built upon apostacy of Christianity on contraception. If Christianity does not turnaround on this issue, there will be no victory on abortion, because there CANNOT be victory against abortion in a contraceptive mentality culture.

Its either both or none. The pro-life movement needs to decide.

[Maximilian]

I believe the former is achievable legislatively pretty quickly (saving 1.4 million babies a year), and that the latter will NEVER be achieved legislatively (OK, maybe in 50 years), but instead will occur after decades of changing hearts and minds.

This is pragmatism of a kind which demonstrates a lack of faith in God. God does not ask us to be successful, only to be faithful (I think Mother Theresa said that). We are being unfaithful when we ignore the roots of moral corruption in our society to focus on political "realities."

Meanwhile, the true political "reality" is that the pro-life movement is a whore that is used by the Republican party to get votes and then tossed aside when the campaign is through. Yet the pro-life movement comes back time after time to be used and abused again. "This time is going to be different" is the shared mottoe of the pro-life movement and the woman living with a violent, drug-addict criminal.