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RIAA Reveals Method to Madness!
The Associated Press. ^ | August 28th, 2003 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/01/2003 6:39:01 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55

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To: DB
I'm curious. How many of you are still downloading/sharing files????

If so what software do you use? Has anyone here on Free Republic been warned or sued?
21 posted on 09/01/2003 7:15:30 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: gitmo
You can download the music, you just can't upload it.
22 posted on 09/01/2003 7:16:04 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55
Thanks. I would never have gotten that from this article.

So the music swappers need an on-line utility that would certify a song is CD quality. Somehow I doubt that would please RIAA.
23 posted on 09/01/2003 7:16:49 AM PDT by gitmo (Americans are learning world geography ... one war at a time.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I plan to get Paisley's album. He's a very good guitar player and one of the more promising country artists out there.

While I have nothing but contempt for the RIAA, there are some good recording acts out there and I do not want to punish them by not buying their records. (I'd buy a lot more of them if they weren't so expensive.)

24 posted on 09/01/2003 7:18:07 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 224.8 (-75.2))
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To: ConservativeMan55
You can download the music, you just can't upload it.

Sharing is sorta like sex. It takes two to complete the act.
25 posted on 09/01/2003 7:20:20 AM PDT by gitmo (Americans are learning world geography ... one war at a time.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I use Kazaa Lite and I download only. I no longer offer songs for uploading. I know it sounds hokey but I don't keep the songs I download for very long. I use Kazaa to sample music. If I like it, I buy it on CD. If I don't care for it, I zap it off my hard drive as I have no desire to fill my hard drive with music I do not care for.

I already own close to 1,000 legal CDs and at least that many more vinyl records and cassette tapes. So in order for any new music to make it into my collection, it must be good and I must be able to sample it. If the RIAA wants to be dicks about file-sharing and they are successful in shutting it down (doubtful), then I guess I'll be buying a lot less CDs. No skin off my back as I already own enough music to keep me occupied for a while.

At this time, I have little interest in paying $1 per song through "legal" online services. I like having the CD with liner notes and artwork, etc. Besides, they serve as a great backup system should my hard drive ever crash. But I realize that CDs are eventually going to go the way of the LP and 8-track. By then, hard drives will be cheap enough where I can easily back up my entire music collection in several locations.

26 posted on 09/01/2003 7:27:30 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 224.8 (-75.2))
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To: SamAdams76
"The RIAA is so afraid somebody might get something for nothing that they are doing irreparable harm to their long term survival with these kind of tactics. I believe the expression is "cut their face to spite their noses."

I agree. With the money and energy they have spent trying to pursue this, they could've set up something to try and adapt to changing technology, like all of us have to do in the real, "free market".

I have zero sympathy for the robber barons who have wrongly been getting some of my money for years from blank tape and cd purchases that are not used to record music or movies.

The RIAA has fought every new technology that has come out for the last twenty years, using the same "We can't get rich" excuse they are using now. They fight technology that's beneficial to society as a whole just to make a buck.

27 posted on 09/01/2003 7:30:17 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Game on in ten seconds.....)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I've never gone to a file sharing site or used any of the file sharing software.

I have no interest in providing my files to others online. Not only don’t I want to tie up my Internet connection bandwidth, I’ve paid a lot of money for the CDs I have and have no interest in giving them away.

I do go to www.mp3.com occasionally to listen to new music but it's sanctioned by the artists.

http://www.middlepillar.com is an interesting site for unusual high quality music.

The only mp3 files I download are to sample new music that is provided by the artist/label. And those “downloads” are to play as streaming audio not as a file for later use. Web mp3 files are of poor quality, which I generally don’t care for. I do occasionally search with Google for mp3 files trying to find a sample of a particular artist or song so I can see if I want to purchase it.
28 posted on 09/01/2003 7:48:43 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: tomakaze
I tried doing a basic search on the net for "RIAA" and "tax" and "recordable", but most of the information I found was regarding the RIAA's attempts to have a tax imposed on blank recordable formats in Canada. I'd like to get some information about whether or not we're already paying a tax on blank recordable discs in America as well.
29 posted on 09/01/2003 8:11:16 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: gitmo
Are they then maintaining that these songs were never purchased before making it to the internet?

No, they are maintaining that sharing is a crime, even if you don't get paid.

30 posted on 09/01/2003 8:13:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: tomakaze
Is this the correct definition of the blank media tax you spoke of?

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_media_tax

Blank media tax From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

A blank media tax (or blank media levy) is a government-mandated scheme in which a special tax (additional to any general sales tax) is levied on recordable media. Such taxes are levied in various counties and the income is typically allocated to the developers of "content".

Such a tax may be linked to a corresponding relaxation of copyright law, by permitting the recording of copyrighted works on media for which the tax has been paid. It may operate in principle as a system of collectivisation, partially replacing a property approach of sale of individual units.

A difficulty that immediately arises is the practical impossibility of devising a mechanism for distributing the proceeds to copyright holders that is considered "fair" by all copyright holders. Implemented systems are typically restricted to music and may distribute the proceeds proportionally to a measurement of sales of CDs in music shops or amount of air-play on radio or the like. This will ignore other distribution channels such as the Internet. Fairer methods would arguably involve extensive sampling of purchasers to determine actual recording behaviour, or alternatively paying all musicians at a simple flat-rate (the preferred method will depend on ones political views).

(snip)

31 posted on 09/01/2003 8:28:49 AM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: tomakaze
FOUND IT!!!!!!!!

http://www.aarcroyalties.com/forms/AARC%20Summary.pdf

SUMMARY OF THE AUDIO HOME RECORDING ACT Introduction This is an exciting and sometimes challenging time for the music business. Digital technology has changed the entire concept of the recording industry's product and how it is exploited. The Audio Home Recording Act of 1992 (“AHRA”) is one of the laws that enable the recording industry to continue exploiting its product in this digital era. In October 1992, the U.S. Congress passed AHRA. Under AHRA, manufacturers and importers of digital audio recorders and blank media are required to make royalty payments to compensate artists and copyright owners for lost royalties due to home taping. These payments are deposited with the U.S. Copyright Office ("Copyright Office"), a federal government agency. Distribution of the royalties to eligible claimants, including featured recording artists and record companies, is administered by the Copyright Office. In response to the passage of this law, the recording industry and the artist community united to form the "Alliance of Artists and Recording Companies" ("AARC"). AARC is a non-profit organization that represents featured performing artists and record companies with regard to AHRA and Japanese sound recording rental royalties. Currently, thousands of featured artists and recording artists are represented by AARC. Participation in AARC has countless advantages. First, by being an AARC participant you will alleviate the time and legal costs that you would otherwise incur in filing and litigating AHRA claims before the Copyright Office. If you choose to represent yourself in these proceeding, the costs could be significant since they include all the Copyright Office's and arbitrators' costs in addition to your own legal costs. Accordingly, it is in our collective interest to minimize government intervention and its associated costs in the distribution of royalties. Also, your participation will provide you an accurate and cost-efficient means of receiving your share of the collected royalties. Under AHRA, royalty payments are placed into two separate funds for the two types of copyrighted works affected by audio home recording -- sound recordings ("Sound Recordings Fund") and musical compositions ("Musical Works Fund"). AARC represents featured recording artists (usually record companies) with regard to the Sound Recordings Fund. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page 2 Pursuant to AHRA, two thirds (2/3) of the royalty payments are allocated to the Sound Recordings Fund. Of that amount, the Copyright Office releases four percent (4%) to the Independent Administrator for further distribution to non-featured musicians and vocalists. Forty percent (40%) of the remaining Sound Recordings Fund royalties is allocated to the featured recording artists who perform on sound recordings distributed during the year for which the royalties were collected (Featured Artists Subfund). The remaining sixty percent (60%) of the Sound Recordings Fund is allocated to the sound recording copyright owners whose sound recordings were distributed during the relevant year (Sound Recording Copyright Owners Subfund). Ultimate distribution to each featured artist in the Featured Artists Subfund is based on the artist's sales during the year which for the royalties were collected. Similarly, ultimate distribution to each sound recording copyright owner in the Sound Recording Copyright Owner Subfund is based on the sound recording copyright owner's sales during the year which for the royalties were collected. Sound Recordings Fund Royalty Payments To be entitled to a portion of these royalties, an artist or sound recording copyright owner must file an annual claim with the Copyright Office. Once the claims are filed, the claimants must take part in an administrative trial unless they are able to reach a universal settlement. Benefits of AARC participation to both performing artists and record companiesThe filing of annual claims, the evidentiary process before, during and after the arbitration panel can be time-consuming, complicated and burdensome for individual claimants, both in terms of legal fees and procedural costs (Copyright Office and arbitration costs). To alleviate these burdens, AHRA encourages the claimants in each group to agree to the division of royalties among individual claimants within their particular group, and to combine their claims by filing jointly or designating a common agent, such as AARC, to collect their royalties. There are numerous benefits to becoming an AARC participant, therefore, allowing us to represent you as a claimant before the Copyright Office. We are confident that our collective administration of the royalties will: - eliminate the need for time-consuming and costly individual filing and processing of claims; - provide you with the security of accurate claims that are timely filed; - reduce your costs through centralized, common administration and data collection; - produce fair and accurate sales data upon which to base distribution; - reduce the number of controversies needing to be resolved before an arbitration panel, thereby minimizing government and arbitration costs, and expediting payment of royalties to you; and - ensure that you are a part of an organization whose sole efforts are directed toward the long-term interests of artists and record companies. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page 3 To facilitate the royalty distribution process and to ensure its fairness, we have contracted with SoundScan to be AARC's data source. The SoundScan system registers point-of-sale information on albums and singles from record retailers and others. The SoundScan system provides us with the most comprehensive, cost-efficient, and accurate title specific point-of-sale information on record sales. Finally, in order to enable featured artists and record companies to deal with issues relating to the distribution of their monies, questions or disputes pertaining to the distribution of featured artist or record company funds will be resolved by panels comprised solely of artist and record company representatives, respectively. Additional benefits for performance artists JAPANESE RENTAL ROYALTIES In addition to the numerous benefits mentioned above, performance artist AARC participants are also eligible to receive Japanese sound recording rental royalties (“rental royalties”). On October 14, 1997, after several years of negotiating with Geidankyo1, the Alliance of Artists and Recording Companies ("AARC") reached formal agreements with Geidankyo to distribute rental royalties to featured recording artists. Japan's obligation to pay royalties for the rental of U.S. sound recording stems from the Uruguay Round Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights, Including Trade in Counterfeit Goods ("TRIPS"). Both the U.S. and Japan, as members of the World Trade Organization, are signatories to TRIPS. Japan is one of the few countries that have a sound recording rental market. Although TRIPS includes a provision that prohibits signatories from engaging in the rental of sound recordings, it makes an exception for Japan. Japan is permitted to continue renting sound recordings if it provides remuneration to performers and producers. Geidankyo collects rental fees based on the number of times a sound recording is rented. By June 30 of each year, Geidankyo will distribute featured recording artists' royalties collected during the prior year. The first year for which Geidankyo distributed royalties to AARC was 1996. JAPANESE HOMETAPING ROYALTIES AARC also negotiated a reciprocal home taping agreement with CPRA/Geidankyo. Like the United States, Japan has a home taping law that requires the manufacturers of digital home recording equipment and media to pay royalties to compensate, among others, artists for the displacement of sales caused by home recording. This agreement benefits artists on United States and Japanese sound recordings since it requires AARC to pay CPRA/Geidankyo the United States royalties earned by featured artists on Japanese sound recordings and CPRA/Geidankyo to pay AARC the Japanese royalties earned by featured artists on United States sound recordings. 1Japanese society designated to collect Japan's sound recording rental royalties. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page 4 AARC is very proud to have negotiated these historic agreements on behalf of featured artists on United States sound recordings, and so to have found new royalty streams for these artists. For rental and home taping royalties due for prior years, AARC will receive several millions of dollars. Going forward, AARC will collect and distribute these royalties annually. AARC will continue its efforts in seeking out additional royalty sources, and protecting its participants' rights in their works. What You Need To Do Next AARC files a claim each year, by the end of February, for royalties collected during the prior year. To ensure that your claim is included in AARC's next AHRA claim, complete a representation agreement(s) ("Featured Recording Artist Authorization Letter" and/or "Copyright Owner Authorization Letter") authorizing AARC to represent you. You should also complete the requisite information forms and return them to us at your earliest convenience. To eliminate the administrative burden that would be associated with renewal of fixed-term authorizations, the term of the agreement is perpetual. However, the agreement may be termination by you at any time – so long as the proper notice is given (see “Authorization Letter”). Upon termination, AARC will continue to represent you only with respect to those claims filed, proceedings or actions commenced, and royalty fees collected from the Copyright Office prior to the effective date of the termination. Please complete and return an executed representation agreement(s) and information forms to us at your earliest convenience. Note that it is the representation agreement that enables AARC to represent you. Therefore, if you require additional time to complete the information forms, send your executed representation agreement to us before completing the information forms. After more than a decade of hard work in securing passage of this legislation, we are committed to ensuring that AHRA functions in a fair, efficient and cost-effective manner. Together, we can make sure that AARC is in the best position to achieve this result. If you have any questions, feel free to contact our office at (202) 775-0101.

32 posted on 09/01/2003 8:44:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: ConservativeMan55; All
I have been in the audio/acoustics business since 1961.

I have tested MP3s extensively. Even the 320 K bitrate/sampling rate MP3s are not of the quality of a cd or album on a good stereo system.

I can't understand why anyone would want to listen to an MP3 at 128 K bitrate/sampling rate. The audio reproduction is terrible.

Actually, the fidelity of sounds on a plastic album is a lot better than a cd. The only advantage a cd brings is the lack of the noise created by friction of the "needle" on the album.

Anyway, my point is that I just can't see the logic in the RIAA's suits. They already KNOW that the MP3 quality is bad, at the best sampling rate.

Idiots!
33 posted on 09/01/2003 8:53:44 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron
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To: Calpernia
re:FOUND IT!!!!!!!!
 
Hot diggety dawg - You da man!
Thanks! now I at least have something to go by.
34 posted on 09/01/2003 8:58:01 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: tomakaze
>>>You da man!

(bats eyelashes) I don't do jock straps :P ;)

I have this marked for later, I have to run now, there WAS something else I wanted to look up on this later:

See this message board I found:

http://md-l.amulation.com/archive/199901/msg00028.html

I saw references to TWO acts: Home Recording Act, the Millenium Recording Act

I didn't get to look up the Millenium Recording Act yet.

ciao for now.
35 posted on 09/01/2003 9:06:25 AM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: El Gran Salseron
Even the 320 K bitrate/sampling rate MP3s are not of the quality of a cd or album on a good stereo system.

Who claimed they were? MP3s are only good enough that those of us who havent spent 42 years studying music and sound dont know the difference... and thats good enough for me.

36 posted on 09/01/2003 2:11:32 PM PDT by zeromus
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To: El Gran Salseron
Even the 320 K bitrate/sampling rate MP3s are not of the quality of a cd or album on a good stereo system.

That is true. On the other hand, when listening to music on something other than a good stereo system, a 128kbps .MP3 or 64kbps .WMA may be quite adequate. Further, for "previewing" purposes, it's more than adequate.

I personally tend to favor 96kpbs .wma files as a size/quality tradeoff for my portable player (nets about 18 hours/CD). But others' mileage may vary.

37 posted on 09/03/2003 3:42:16 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: LanPB01
I'd like to get some information about whether or not we're already paying a tax on blank recordable discs in America as well.

In the US, "audio" disks have the tax and "data" disks do not. The disks are functionally identical except that audio CD recorders will only record to "audio" disks.

In other words, people who wish to record their own original music direct to CD have to pay the tax. Those who wish to download stolen music off the net and burn CD's of it don't have to pay the tax.

If the goal of the music industry is to harm independent artists, this makes perfect sense.

38 posted on 09/03/2003 3:44:29 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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