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To: pram
I can't understand why you insist that Santorum's statement - and the many Americans who agree with him - want to have police on a "seach and destroy" mission against behavior which is practiced in secrecy. This is a straw man argument.

It's not a straw man argument at all, but precisely what the case was about that Santorum was commenting on.

The police enter the bedroom of consenting adults and arrested them for sodomy.
Santorum's response supported the rights of states to keep things like adultery and sodomy illegal.

There is absolutely no point in his argument if these laws cannot be enforced.

The whole purpose of anti-sodomy laws is to keep such behavior out of the mainstream, out of the public view. That way fewer people will be seduced into it, and if such sodomy practitioners try their skills in, say, public bathrooms they can then be arrested. Why don't you see this? Why are you so attracted to the idea of sodomy and/or same sex acts being protected?

Go back and read my posts again. I addressed Santorum's position that adultery and sodomy etc should be illegal.

Do you believe the police should be able to bust down the bedroom doors of consenting adults and arrest them for adultery?
How about if we start stoning homosexuals and shooting women in the head on the sidewalks for unfaithfulness, like the Taliban?
That's the kind of country you want to live in?

And please don't give me these alternate purposes for making these behaviors illegal, that have nothing to do with actually enforcing the law. That is not what laws are for.

202 posted on 08/31/2003 6:26:44 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Do you believe the police should be able to bust down the bedroom doors of consenting adults and arrest them for adultery?

No. But I also don't believe that the direction our culture is going - the moral relativism slippery slide, with ANY KIND OF SEXUAL DEVIANCY AND IMMORALITY glorified, normalized, accepted, and shoved down everyone's throats including schoolchildren is going to lead to anything except 1. first anarchy, and 2. then tyranny.

How about if we start stoning homosexuals and shooting women in the head on the sidewalks for unfaithfulness, like the Taliban?

I think you need to investigate your own mind and heart, because your comments are seriously irrational.

That's the kind of country you want to live in?

All I can say is straw man.

216 posted on 08/31/2003 8:35:42 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Jorge
Aw jeez not this crap again.

NO ONE BUSTED DOWN ANY DOORS in Lawrence v. Texas. The men left their front door unlocked (possibly deliberately). The caller was a gay lover of one of the men (not a homophobe as some homosexuals have alleged).

Keep your leftist talking points out of the converstations please. You know that I've corrected you on these issues a number of times. You are deliberately deceitful.

232 posted on 09/01/2003 12:57:31 PM PDT by weegee
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