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To: Ohioan
Henry Ford was duped into publishing some anti-semitic propaganda But that was not the source of the German onslaught against the Jews

I never said it was. I mentioned Henry Ford because you seemed to be strong parallels between FDR and Hitler based on a common approach to the problems of the Depression.

Marx had proposed the idea of rallying your support by focusing on a single target; he had also blamed the sins of Capitalism on a Jewish mindset, and suggested a world without Jews. Hitler simply grabbed the tactic and ran with it

The source of Hitler's anti-semitism is still disputed. I'm inclined to believe it's rooted in Europe's basic, centuries old religious prejudices spread by both the Catholic and Orthodox churches. Hitler was not an athiest. Rather he was an apostate who never renounced religion...and never was excommunicated. Nor was his regime punished by the Church.

On the subject of arrogance, have you ever seen pictures of FDR? Hitler may have been an arrogant ranter. FDR was the most arrogant snob, ever to sit in the oval office. To understand that Hitler and Stalin were demonstrably smarter than FDR, is not a cheap shot.

Ok. We differ. Let it go.

If the market had simply been allowed to adjust, free of gimmicks, it is true that many people would have had to take a cut in remuneration to find jobs, or settle in new areas; some perhaps even returning to subsistance farming. But people would have made adjustments, and gone back to work

The real world is never free of gimmicks (benefits accruing to certain, favored groups). One of the adjustments people quite commonly make in these situations is revolution, i.e. a revision of the rules which justifies mass theft of property and power.

130 posted on 08/30/2003 4:04:49 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry; BlackElk
Rather he was an apostate who never renounced religion...and never was excommunicated. Nor was his regime punished by the Church.

Not so fast, my friend.

Hitler excommunicated himself through his actions; Church teaching is very clear on the matter. For that matter, the Church has not "excommuicated" Ted Kennedy, who through his incessant promotion of and largesse (public and private) to Planned Parenthood has WAY over-earned the public announcement of his excommunication.

WIthout the polemic, people excommunicate themselves. The Church's paperwork is always 'after-the-fact' and generally is not even sent.

As to "historic" anti-semitism--you will have to go a long way to prove that. While it is true that numbers of Christians are PERSONALLY anti-Semitic, it is flat-out UNTRUE that the Churches are so.

Hitler did exactly what he had learned (Marx was certainly not the first propagandist to come up with this): demonize somebody--ANYbody. The Jews were quite handy, and a small minority.

Finally, as to the Church's "Punishing" Hitler's regime: you must be kidding. Exactly whose Army was the Pope going to send? Should the Church have sent a Cardinal to Hitler with an engraved invitation to a trial in Rome? And which jails does the Church run?

137 posted on 08/30/2003 4:30:55 PM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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