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To: liberallarry; FormerLib; kellynla; Bob; sandyeggo; EternalVigilance; ElkGroveDan; ...
There are always enough social conservatives to guarantee that the GOP will NOT have to sell out on the issues that really count. The "money, money, money" crowd have their single issue. For many of us, abortion, family, keeping leftist paws off our kids, the individual right to keep and bear arms, judicial appointments, military strength, pre-emptive strike foreign policy, how money is spent, how much money is spent, how much money is taken from whom, and long-term preservation of at least one political party as a bulwark of those values is infinitely more important than your personal tax bill and absolutely inconsistent with the political health of the social surrender monkeys who are the RINOs.

In a choice between allying with socially conservative family people among blacks and Latinos on the one hand (even with social spending costs) or allying with fiscally obsessive RINO people who are enemies on the issues that count, I'll take my stand with social conservatives every time. Those are not today's choices (other than Tom McClintock) but they will be if either the GOP maintains GOP principles or its social conservatives go back across the aisle with their primary votes. The issues count. The party does not matter except as a vehicle for the translation of principles into public policy. If the GOP becomes an issues vacuum and a principles vacuum it will again go the way of its Federalist and Whig predecessors. Social conservatives give the GOP its reason to live. Those who wish to surrender on social issues as listed above are Republicans in name only because they view the party as a vehicle for personal power and wealth only or as merely not the Demonrats. No social conservative will EVER be loyal to RINOs.

Arnold is managed by UberRINO Planned Barrenhood Wilson and advised by Warren Buffett. Arnold is a personal libertine as to behavior as well as beliefs. Arnold is primarily supported by a combination of enemies of Republicanism, enemies of civilization, and people too obsessed with money and celebrity to bother to care about anything other than their own wallets. NO SALE! Arnold is a marionette of the likes of Wilson and Buffett because of his past personal immorality, present personal amorality and theoretical immorality and general flabbiness as a person despite all those muscles.

If McClintock were not electable (which is nothing but the usual RINO planted axiom about any principled GOP candidate), then there are NO acceptable alternatives. Doofus can be continued in office because Arnold will have hijacked the recall effort and rendered it meaningless. Their policies will not be meaningfully different. They will both be advocates of evil. They are both lying weasels. Whether you believe it or not, they will both be tax thieves extraordinaire and spendoholics as well. Doofus will pour your money down public sector union drains. Arnold will enrich Wilson's fat friends. You pay the same, one way or another.

Bustamante might even be a smidgeon better than Arnold or Grayout. He can prove that Demonrats cannot govern period generally and not just Doofus. Bustamante will build the GOP like no other candidate.

Note that Cruz is suffering serious bleeding among Hispanic voters (just because he is Cruz and not because of Arnold). They are not the monolith that many of you fear---YET. Those Hispanic voters will dominate California in the future and they had better feel welcome in the GOP. This will not be accomplished by trust-fund Republicanism but by assuring them that the GOP will not facilitate the abortion of their grandchildren or encourage their son Juan to marry Pedro. No Demonrat, not even Bustamante, can satisfy their social conservatism.

Learn again to drive wedges deep into the Demonrat coalitions instead of sniffling in the closet about how awfully liberal California is and how simply impossible it is to convince the increasingly Demonratic polo pony and watercress sandwich set to vote for pro-lifers and pro-family candidates. If you seek their votes by liberalizing on spending, the GOP will always be brand X, but the GOP advantage with the Hispanics is on social issues like abortion and resistance to homosexuality where the GOP is the brand name item.

The future is coming whether you lie it or not and in California it will be a Hispanic future. You can regard the Mexicans as alien beings from another planet and suffer the consequences or you can recognize that Muffy and Skipper in La Jolla are the strangers to Republicanism because they are social revolutionaries, that their political influence is ending because of demographics because the social conservatives have children while the social liberals have vacations at Club Med but vacations do not vote, that the influx of Hispanics dooms existing arrangements and that the only questions are which party will control the future that IS coming and how will it be controlled.

RINOs give Republicans and other conservatives and especially social conservatives ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Arnold is the worst of the three mentioned because he destroys the California GOP for a generation to come if he wins. Vote McClintock early and often or pay the consequences as a party and as a state. Arnold and especially Wilson and Buffett are NOT worth any compromise at all.

126 posted on 08/30/2003 10:07:31 AM PDT by BlackElk (National Committee Against RINOs and CINOs and Ahhhhhnold and Justine Raimondo)
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To: BlackElk
- Some of the issues you mention are federal and therefore irrelevant to this election.

- You feel that social conservatism is more important than fiscal conservatism. Fair enough.

- Your resort to smears and sarcastic characterization says you're capable only of preaching to the choir. You'll attract no one else.

- I have a problem with McClintock which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else but which seems very real to me. He says he'll enforce Proposition 187 and border control to the limits of his powers. I don't believe he has a chance in hell of anything substantive. He'll lose in court and to the federal government. I believe he's grandstanding - playing Wallace standing on the steps. The risks of social anarchy and severe international consequences are too great and he knows it.

139 posted on 08/30/2003 10:31:03 AM PDT by liberallarry
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