To: Da Mav
"It's sad that people like Paul Hill would murder in the name of life."
Or that abortionists would murder in the name of choice.
Ok, I think what Hill did was wrong and he should pay the price for it, as it appears he will. However, was Bonheoffer wrong for plotting to kill Hitler? I find that I contradict myself. I am pro-life all the way, but could not kill to protect the unborn. But I would have killed if it meant Jews at a Nazi prison camp would be freed. Most of you feel the same I think--how does one work this out?
5 posted on
08/29/2003 7:24:25 PM PDT by
bethelgrad
(for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
To: bethelgrad
Ok, I think what Hill did was wrong and he should pay the price for it, as it appears he will. However, was Bonheoffer wrong for plotting to kill Hitler?
Killing Hitler would have ended the Holocaust and would have most likely ended the war, and its butcher's bill, that much sooner.
Killing some random abortionist isn't going to end abortion in America, and is in fact likely to make abortion that much harder to ban.
Therefore judging the two situations the most important difference becomes obvious. What Bonhoeffer (well, more Stauffenberg and co really) was attempting to do would have saved millions of lives, what Hill and the like have done has most likely sentenced more innocents to death.
To: bethelgrad
Ok, I think what Hill did was wrong and he should pay the price for it, as it appears he will. However, was Bonheoffer wrong for plotting to kill Hitler? I find that I contradict myself. I am pro-life all the way, but could not kill to protect the unborn. But I would have killed if it meant Jews at a Nazi prison camp would be freed. Most of you feel the same I think--how does one work this out? Different situations. Bonhoeffer and the conspirators had tried every possible thing to stop Hitler and he was only getting stronger. So they tried what they did after much deliberation. The abortion situation is different because when people were attacking doctors, blowing up clinics, blockading clinics, etc., in the early 1990s, the poll numbers were very much against the pro-life crowd. Since taking a different approach (being forced to by federal restrictions, ironically), the pro-life crowd is increasingly changing minds and hearts on this. With time, and with our President appointing judges, the face of the judiciary on this issue will change. Killing doctors saves no children. Killing Hitler would have because it could have toppled the 3rd Reich.
8 posted on
08/29/2003 7:37:36 PM PDT by
Texas_Dawg
(Little man? I don't even care about the upper-middle class.)
To: bethelgrad
The resolution to the conflict is simple: You don't REALLY believe that unborn babies are human, fully deserving of all our rights and protections. You feel that killing them is wrong, yes.... but.....it's kind of like putting a family pet to sleep......
If babies are human, then either what Hill did is right, or anyone killing a Nazi to save Jews was wrong. Q.E.D.
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