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Abortion figure Paul Hill faces execution
The Kansas City Star ^
| Thu, Aug. 28, 2003
| DAVID CRARY - AP
Posted on 08/29/2003 6:51:30 PM PDT by yonif
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To: Polycarp
Polycarp, would you have opposed the effort to kill Hitler? What about the recent action where our troops went to a private house in Baghdad, tried to kill Saddam Hussein, and got his two sons?
I mean, can you see Jesus carrying out these actions? Or would these men have (by your construction) then died unrepentant and condemned to Hell?
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posted on
09/02/2003 2:13:49 PM PDT
by
TBP
To: TBP
Does anyone find it interesting that the only organization (at leat, the only one I've heard of) that has come out in oppostion to executing Hill is Planned Parenthood, the pro-eugenics organization that makes big bucks aborting children? Correcting myself: Now the ACLU has come out against executing Hill. Whenever organizations like the ACLU and Planned Parenthood oppose something like this, you have to wonder what they're up to.
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posted on
09/02/2003 2:24:10 PM PDT
by
TBP
To: TBP
Polycarp, would you have opposed the effort to kill Hitler?No.
What about the recent action where our troops went to a private house in Baghdad, tried to kill Saddam Hussein, and got his two sons?
I support this too.
I mean, can you see Jesus carrying out these actions?
Yes. Jesus understands the difference between Just War and cold blooded murder. And so do I.
Are you arguing its OK to shoot abortion doctors?
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posted on
09/02/2003 3:07:33 PM PDT
by
Polycarp
(When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
To: TBP
the only organization (at leat, the only one I've heard of) that has come out in oppostion to executing Hill The Florida Catholic bishops did also.
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posted on
09/02/2003 3:10:06 PM PDT
by
Polycarp
(When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
To: Polycarp
Read my original post. I think it's wrong to shoot abortionists (your label of "doctors" is revealing) and I think Hill should have been executed laong ago. I wanted to see if your position was consistent.
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posted on
09/02/2003 3:16:26 PM PDT
by
TBP
To: TBP
your label of "doctors" is revealingMy label of "doctors" reveals nothing. Abortionists should be exuted by the state alongside abortionists' killers.
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posted on
09/02/2003 3:20:07 PM PDT
by
Polycarp
(When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
To: yonif
I don't believe that this man is a martyr in any sense of the word. What he did was wrong. He did the same thing that he was against. He took a life that was not his to take. I understand the passion that he felt but I feel that his and that of others who have done the same thing was misdirected. I pray that he will seek and find the forgiveness offered to him by Jesus. I pray that the family of the ones he killed will be able to forgive him as well.
To: yonif
"In a very significant way, it's a sad day," said Gloria Feldt, president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America. "It's sad that people like Paul Hill would murder in the name of life."Yes, and it's a sad day any day when "Planned (un)Parenthood" murders a helpless little baby in his mother's womb, too, Gloria.
Ted Kascinski murdered people also, and he somehow got the sympathy of all the intelengensia as being just "tragically misguided." I fail to see why Kascinski should have been treated with any more leniency than Paul Hill.
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To: nightdriver
Ted Kascinski murdered people also, and he somehow got the sympathy of all the intelengensia as being just "tragically misguided." I fail to see why Kascinski should have been treated with any more leniency than Paul Hill. I quite agree. Three premeditated murders, G-d-knows-how many maimings - he should have received the death penalty. I have no idea why the prosecutor allowed him to plea it out.
To: Mini-14
"Paul Hill is the John Brown of 2003."Paul Hill is like the SUV arsonists in LA, California and Eugene, Oregon. They make it just that much harder to constructively elevate discussion of environmental issues, and he makes it very hard to get across to people that kids are dying and something needs doing about it.
The Hitler rational he poses is flawed. If one individual is the cause of abortion and killing him or her would stop it, then you have a Hitlerlike person you could argue that killing that person makes sense.
All he created was a martyr, and helped insure women will always be given license to continue the killing.
This self aggrandizing idiot is no John Brown. Just because he is right about abortion doesn't give him the right to promote terrorism to end it.
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posted on
09/02/2003 6:31:07 PM PDT
by
bicycle thug
(Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
To: bicycle thug
All right, it's all over with Paul Hill. He claims he's a
martyr? He'll go straight to heaven? I'm sorry, but he will
likely be punished by divine justice as well as by human
justice. For the fifth commandment explicitly says "you
shall not kill", and it does NOT say things like "you shall
not kill unless you commit what you consider a justifiable
homicide".
He killed people based on his convictions of what is
morally right? But so did Osama bin Laden. He has got
plenty of justification too. Most of radical pro-lifers
would agree that Osama is a self-deluded maniac, but then,
what about a log in your own eye? Alas, it's harder to see
that one..
And whenever one claims that abortion is morally wrong,
what is the basis of that claim? The Bible? Well, not all
the people on this Earth are Christians. And if somebody
hasn't learnt how to tolerate and respect beliefs and
spiritual views of other people, then how would he justify
his own existence in the age of democracy? We don't have
dark ages any longer, gotta keep up mentally with that.
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posted on
09/03/2003 5:24:08 PM PDT
by
Little_Prince
(Paul Hill got what he deserved)
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