Mystery-death husband tells of flu symptoms, 'then a thump' (New Zealand)

New Zealand Herald ^ | August 30, 2003

[Shermy]

From yesterday:

National Alert on Mystery Deaths

[Shermy]

Ping.

[Eala]

But deadly coincidence is considered the most likely explanation for the sudden cluster of mystery deaths.

The three were unknown to one another and lived several kilometres apart. They had no obvious risk factors and were people who were not likely to die suddenly.

I dunno. They all complained of "flu-like symptoms," and pneumonia...? Sounds like a bug of some kind to me, much more than "deadly coincidence" -- but OTOH I'm no medical expert.

[Sunshine55]

Aren't these symptoms alot like that of SARS?

[steplock]

Other than a couple of blood-agents, there was one "natural" cause of similar symptoms...

Goodpasture syndrome, a disorder in which autoantibodies form against the basement membrane of the blood vessels in the kidney glomeruli and in the air sacs of the lung. The autoantibodies cause severe kidney damage and lung hemorrhage.

Goodpasture's syndrome may be rapidly fatal. The cause of death is usually pulmonary hemorrhage and respiratory failure.

It's amazing what you can learn from NBC warfare school.

[boxerblues]

They all complained of "flu-like symptoms," and pneumonia...? Sounds like a bug of some kind to me, much more than "deadly coincidence" -- but OTOH I'm no medical expert.

sounds very similar to what some of the troops in Iraq have experienced

[maestro]

Wasn't there an outbreak of some kind of 'Pig-chicken' related infections a few years ago in Hong Kong via mainland China?

I think it was found to be from a 'test' village on the mainland,.....'operations' had got out of its 'control zone'.

It included something about these animal's 'droppings' also.

Millions of pigs-chickens were 'destroyed' before getting to 'market'.

(Maybe, they failed to destroy them all,....or, their 'droppings' got mixed with other export materials??

:-(

[Polycarp]

Mr Rawson's death was not related to his job as a boner, as the abattoir where he worked was in its off-season.

Hmmmm...what's an abattoir, and what exactly does a boner do for a living?

[Cicero]

An abbatoir is where cattle or other animals are killed for meat, and a boner is presumably someone who removes the bones prior to packing.

[maestro]

UR#6.......correct!!

sounds very similar to what some of the troops in Iraq have experienced

Texas (Military base/2-3 soldiers).....a few months ago.....(media buried the stories?)

(?.....agent's agent......medical sick call...?)

Its like,......how many folks are/have been crippled via 'West Nile Virus'......'cover-up' going on??

[Shermy]

How about this one?

Initial symptoms include sore throat, mild fever, muscle aches and malaise. These may progress to respiratory failure and shock. Meningitis frequently develops.

[maestro]

?'bonemeal' cattle feed?

[Eala]

It's amazing what you can learn from NBC warfare school.

I was sort of aware that the television "news" business was a bit rough, but, wow: NBC has a "warfare school?" How does it stack up against ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX and the others?

*\;-)

[maestro]

?....'bonemeal'..... cattle feed?.........'dust-powder' inhaled?

[Shermy]

Doesn't show up in Merck under that name.

Try this: Goodpasture's

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

Goodpasture's Syndrome is primarily a renal disease (a form of anti-GBM glomerulonephritis.) While it can cause bleeding into the lungs and hemoptysis (coughing up blood), a cluster of THREE such cases with sudden death from massive pulmonary hemorrhage is fantastically unlikely. It would be more reasonable to suppose that they had been struck by meteorites in the chest.

You can construct a list of probably 30 or 40 clinical entities that COULD be responsible, but this looks like coincidence.

[Bigg Red]

An abattoir is a slaughterhouse. I suppose a boner is one who debones the carcasses.