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To: Dr. Eckleburg
To read your suggestions that my sons should content themselves with trade employment while girls with lower grades and SAT scores head to college is painfully callous and smug.

I never said that they should content themselves with that or that girls should get a pass with lower grades. I merely pointed out that tradesman can make a good living and won't have their jobs out-sourced.

You decided to be offended and react in an emotional way, rather than merely reading what I had stated.

Having a college degree has been more essential for a woman to support herself than it has been for a man.

Sorry, but that was and has been a true statement for a long time. When there were manufacturing jobs in this country, and when men could make a good living at it, as well as work as fireman, policeman, and other skilled, but not degreed jobs, woman's work was mainly clerical, not something that was very renumerative.

What world were you living in then ? A good job for a woman was a teacher or a nurse, both of which required a college education. In addition, it was a practice in Southern black families to educate their girls, rather than their boys, if the money was limited, as this was an avenue out from being a housemaid, and all the sexual pressures which that engendered.

That's not the feminism of Betty Friedan or Germaine Greer. (Do you even know those names?)

Yes, I've read them both and considered that Friedan, who has since been outed as both a fellow traveler with communists of the fifties and a lesbian, was responsible for instigating much of the notion that wife and mother were not esteemed callings, which led to much of the downfall of this culture in the last thirty years.

Greer was more focussed on sexual freedom issues and less on politics; she was much more affirmative toward men.

I hope you and every other young woman without children on these threads who speak so glibly about young men's futures will one day have your own children.

Don't assume that I don't.

The subject of this thread was not higher education; it was the unequal treatment of boys and girls, mainly in elementary school. I indicated that I am sympathetic and in agreement that schools have become unfriendly places for boys.

In addition to that, I have spoken up for the manly world of skilled work, which many have found far more satisfying than white-collar cubicle drudgery. I make no apologies for that and think that many females might find that work more satifying that that in high rise prisons.

From the beginning, you read far more negativity into my responses than were there.

188 posted on 08/31/2003 3:33:05 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl; Pro-Bush; WOSG
Betty Friedan a lesbian?

Her three children and grandchildren will be surprised to hear that.

Far be it from me to defend a pro-aborion socialist, but Friedan has written for years that anti-male, lesbian politics are destroying NOW. Obviously you've never read one word of Friedan's except the errors you googled this morning.

Keep it up. You've got lots to learn.

Your silly, ill-informed, blithe remarks hurt women as much as men.

...fellow traveler with communists...

And for future reference, that's redundant. Stick to using words you know how to use.

I'm done with educating you. Good luck in college. Don't eat too much junk food and get enough sleep. And be sure to pay attention in all those electrical engineering classes.

I hear they're looking for women on the lines in Lubbock.

193 posted on 08/31/2003 10:16:20 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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