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AFL-CIO Announces it Will Not Debate-or Even Appear on the Same TV Show-as National Right to Work
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Posted on 08/29/2003 8:26:11 AM PDT by chance33_98

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To: em2vn
I am in a union I don't like. I am not a great fan of union misconduct. However, something just smelled fishy to me about this story.

National Right to Work foundation. A group of small disenfranchised union style workers with a lobbying group, and the money to hire lawyers to sue? How could that be? These people should be broke. Is there perhaps a chance that the National Right to Work Foundation is a corporate front group?

I just asked myself that question right now, not knowing the answer, but deeply suspicious. I looked it up. They are a corporate front group. That is ok. They try to disguise that fact though, which is bad.

There is nothing wrong with being a group of business execs who want to stop labor unions. More power to you. I don't blame the AFL-CIO one bit for not debating with them. We know what the agenda is of the AFL-CIO. However, debating a group, who gets massive corporate donations, but hides it's donor list, in a debate that is supposed to be a debate between joe six pack labor types with different opinions is a joke. If the businesses who fund the National Right to Work group want to debate as themselves against the AFL-CIO, then I would be upset if the AFL-CIO turned down the request.

I would feel the same if a tort reform bill was up, and a person from the AMA refused to go up against "Doctors for Apple Pie, and Mother hood", and it turned out to be a trial lawyer funded front group. It's disingenuous, and doesn't raise the level of debate.

21 posted on 08/31/2003 7:30:45 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: bert
I wish - the government workers and teachers unions are stronger than ever.
22 posted on 08/31/2003 7:33:23 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: dogbyte12
What is your source for your statement that National Right to Work Foundation is a "corporate front?" The National Right to Work Committee has over two million members. The Foundation is funded from contributions from people from all walks of life.
23 posted on 09/01/2003 5:24:02 AM PDT by donozark
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To: donozark
No one has ever convinced me any FUVA legislation is necessary. Please help me understand why we need this. What about the laws already on the books?
24 posted on 02/07/2004 7:23:20 AM PST by hell06
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To: hell06
Read posts12,13,15,16,17,18, and 20 above. Still have questions? Read the entire legislative bill and refer to nrtwc.org.
25 posted on 02/07/2004 1:23:44 PM PST by donozark
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To: donozark
How come the stats provided by the NILRR are questionable?In reviews of Haggard and Thieblots 1983 and 1999 versions of their books about Union Violence, critics contend that the stats cannot be validated.
Face it, there is no loophole.
26 posted on 02/07/2004 8:07:03 PM PST by hell06
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Thank you for bringing up the NILRR. "A database of media-reported incidents of union violence since 1975 compiled by the National Institute for Labor Relations Research (NILRR) provided Drs. Northrup, Haggard, and Thieblot with much of the base material for their study.

The National Institute for Labor Relations Research (NILRR) is a non-profit group dedicated to investigating compulsory unionism and related abuses, such as union violence.

The NILRR database is the single best source for assessing the scope of union violence in America, but it is far from comprehensive, as NILRR itself and the study authors acknowledge.

For example, court records filed by the Caterpillar earth-moving equipment company include logs of over 4900 incidents of United Autoworkers (UAW) violence during its 1992-95 strike against the company, but the media reported only 42 of these incidents."

Thus, if anything, the incidents of union violence are UNDER-counted.

"While most union violence goes unreported, it is so widespread, that of the 146 labor organizations with membership over 1000 in America, 141 are associated with at least some media-reported violence," said Mr. Goodrick, Committee Vice-President. He further states, "The judicially-created loophole sanctioning heinous acts of violence under federal law exists today only because it has Congress' tacit endorsement."

This loophole/exemption must be closed. The exemption for violence committed for so-called "legitimate union objectives" is still violence.

The Supreme Court's 1973 Enmons decision established this dangerous precident. Specifically, it exempted unions from the 1946 Hobbs Anti-Extortion Act, which forbids the obstruction of interstate commerce through violence or blackmail.

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The information above, enclosed in quotation marks, came from The National Right to Work Committee. (www.nrtwc.org/201.html)

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Just because you are carrying an umbrella, does not mean it isn't raining...

27 posted on 02/08/2004 1:26:24 PM PST by donozark
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To: chance33_98
Bump for post 27
28 posted on 02/08/2004 1:29:12 PM PST by donozark
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