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To: Jorge; P-Marlowe
No religion was imposed on others.

If so, where is the law that established this one religion, and where is the place everyone is required to sign up?

Daniel was not allowed to pray anyplace. Moore is being told that he is not permitted to acknowledge his own constitution, express his faith in his workplace, nor use his own uniquenesses in performing his job.

Sounds like a similar case to me.

Both are experiencing "prohibiting the FREE EXERCISE thereof."

10 posted on 08/28/2003 9:04:56 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins
"Daniel was not allowed to pray anyplace."

And God survived that.

14 posted on 08/28/2003 9:07:40 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (There's no such thing as a stupid question, there are however, many inquisitive morons out there...)
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To: xzins
Besides this monument is not a coerced religion. It is a monument reflected what our laws are based on. This country has its roots in Judeo Christian principles and the Ten Commandments are the core of it.

The Ten Commandments are not a "religion". to require that people accept Jesus as their Savior as in the Crusades or the Inquisition is clearly not Christian and would violate the church and state separation.

We purposely have no state dictated religion. People can for the most part believe what they want however First Amendment Rights allow for the sullying on ones beliefs. Christianity is a popular taget.

The whole idea behind the Judeo Christian roots, WAS to keep Judeo Christian principles IN government but keep government OUT of religion. For example, George Bush's faith based initiative IS a violation of the separation of church and state since it COERCES citizens through tax dollars fund beliefs of others. I'm not interested in funding Muslims or Hindu's. Yet under the faith based initiative the government could NOT descriminate against these religions.

The Ten Cammandments are of historical value in the it illustrates what our laws are based on. There is certainly nothing wrong with that. For those that are Christians it is a nice gesture to share this.

75 posted on 08/28/2003 10:15:06 PM PDT by nmh
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To: xzins
"If so, where is the law that established this one religion, and where is the place everyone is required to sign up?"

If you believe this is all the Founders meant by "establishment", you haven't read their words.

They - including Madison on numerous occasions - specifically wrote against the use of tax dollars collected from non-Christians to support the promotion of Christianity. This had nothing to do with the forced practice of Christianity. They also specifically intended that "establishment" would include the use of government office to adopt Christianity as the state-sponsored faith. Reading "establishment" to mean "complusory adherence to one faith" is a far more narrow reading than the one set forth by those who wrote the 1st Amendment.

102 posted on 08/29/2003 6:44:56 AM PDT by lugsoul
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