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Warning – Serious Item! U10 Commandmensts judge Moore is an egomaniacal huckster)
ESPN Page 2 ^ | August 26, 2003 | Gregg Easterbrook

Posted on 08/28/2003 12:12:24 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: lugsoul
Of course not. And displaying the Ten Commandments does not enforce anything either. Nor does displaying "God" on our money or on many of our government and public buildings. And neither does prayer at the beginning of congressional sessions or at a school football game or at the beginning of the school day. Nor in the pledge of allegiance. Nor does a traditional Christmas play or Christmas cards or Christmas greetings or traditional Christmas displays in our cities and towns. Yet, the ACLU and the courts are one by one depriving all of us from these rights and traditions. How long will it be before we are prohibited from writing "God bless you" in a public forum or how much longer do you think it will be legal for a President or Congressman to end a speech on the floor of the Congress with the prayer: "May God continue to bless America?" This is wrong and must be reversed.


222 posted on 08/28/2003 6:52:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: bjs1779
It doesn't prohibit them from speaking out. It simply denies them the benefits of staying out of government, if they choose not to stay our of government. If they want to be involved on politics, they are subjected to the same rules as all other organizations involved in politics.
223 posted on 08/28/2003 6:53:25 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: Happy2BMe
Can you quote it? Let's take a look at it.

The Liberals know what it is. Let see if they respond.

224 posted on 08/28/2003 6:53:28 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Jim Robinson
And not a single one of your examples is affected in the least by the decisions in Glassroth v. Moore. Not even the display of the Ten Commandments, where it is not accompanied by a public declaration on behalf of the state that (a) all citizens and all litigants in the court are under the sovereign governance of and derive their legal rights from the God of the Holy Scriptures and (b) the displays of any other religious sources of law are prohibited because they are inferior to the Word of God.
225 posted on 08/28/2003 6:56:45 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: lugsoul
And yet we're losing at every turn. God is being systematically removed from public life. Why?

226 posted on 08/28/2003 6:59:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: lugsoul
It doesn't prohibit them from speaking out. It simply denies them the benefits of staying out of government, if they choose not to stay our of government. If they want to be involved on politics, they are subjected to the same rules as all other organizations involved in politics.

It "simply denies them". Have a nice day my 1st amendment friend.

228 posted on 08/28/2003 7:03:57 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: lugsoul
Has the exact law that Judge Moore supposedly violated been quoted yet?

From everything I've seen, he has broken no written law.

He is guilty of but one thing: remaining faithful to his oath to uphold the Alabama and United States Constitutions.

229 posted on 08/28/2003 7:06:03 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Jim Robinson; lawdog
God is being systematically removed from public life. Why?

Yes, the Judeo-Christian God is being removed from public life, but, at the same time, the city of San Jose can erect a statue of Quetzlcoatl, and the Ninth Circuit approves. Alvarado v. City of San Jose (9th Cir. 1996). Why?

230 posted on 08/28/2003 7:09:06 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: CaliRepub
"If this god actually existed, he/she/it could not be removed from public life by any work of man."

Does not your opinion and unbelief move as you read this through your eyes, ears, mind, and tongue?

Don't you digest this and react according to your specific belief system.

Doesn't your belief system tell you to trust what you have been learned from experience and from the experiences of those in whom you trust?

Why would you think that anyone who professes to believe in "God" not believe just as strongly in their convictions as your right in refusing to believe anything but your own self?

231 posted on 08/28/2003 7:11:06 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: CaliRepub
Sure.
232 posted on 08/28/2003 7:12:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: quidnunc
Heck, if Janet Reno had written an editorial concerning the 10 Commandments Memorial, she would have proclaimed that if she were in charge the Memorial would have been bulldozed and burned, or maybe vice versa, more in keeping with her forte.
233 posted on 08/28/2003 7:17:34 PM PDT by harpo11 ( Hey, I work hard too, but I'm legal.)
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To: aristeides
Removing God as the core of the American moral fibre is no easy or trifle task.

It has been a monumental undertaking by athesits, agnostics, and "separatits" for well over one hundred years.

But to remove something from a society as large and as significant to America as "God" creates a "cause-and-effect" process that bears careful study.

For it's impact will be increasingly and incredibly significant on the future path this nation is to travel.

For example, when icons depicting or referring to the God of Judeo-Christian beliefs are forcefully withdrawn from the view of the American public at large occurs, something must fill the great vacum and void left by such occurrences.

We see these removals of symbols and icons being removed gradually, then more and more of them, then eventually down to a few of the reamining more significant holdouts.

Man must have "something" higher than himself to believe in - something to look up to for inspiration and direction.

The void being left by removing Judeo-Christian beliefs, icons, and symbols from American society and government has far, far reaching ramifications.

Most of which will not be realized until years, if not decades of change has occurred after their removal.

We are moving from a godly society into a society where man is god.

234 posted on 08/28/2003 7:22:56 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you.
235 posted on 08/28/2003 7:25:42 PM PDT by wardaddy ("when shrimps learn to whistle")
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To: sport
1) I didn't say he was an sob, just a demigog. I know many conservatives who agree with me including Neal Boortz and local talk show host Richard Dixon.

2) I interpret the news, I don't passively absorb it. I was viewing the news as seriously biased against conservatives long before Fox or FR appeared on the scene.

3) My opinions are mine. You don't have to agree with me.

236 posted on 08/28/2003 7:27:20 PM PDT by 6ppc
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To: 6ppc
O.K.

Thanks for responding.
237 posted on 08/28/2003 7:29:13 PM PDT by sport
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To: lugsoul
But that is the road your allies are on. To expunge God from the public arena.

If you cannot see that then you have been asleep since the early 60s...and I know that is not the case.

Once again I am proud to see who I am allied with on this one and lament the lot you've chosen to throw in with.

and I am not butt kissing....

I had no idea where JR was on this and am quite pleased by this discovery.
238 posted on 08/28/2003 7:30:33 PM PDT by wardaddy ("when shrimps learn to whistle")
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To: quidnunc
Since, Moore said, an interpretation can be wrong, anyone may defy a judicial order which is just an interpretation.

The Church of the Liberated just announced that the 10 commandments may be defied because the former method of observation was based on a wrong interpretation.

239 posted on 08/28/2003 7:30:34 PM PDT by RWG
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To: quidnunc
Since, Moore said, an interpretation can be wrong, anyone may defy a judicial order which is just an interpretation.

The Church of the Liberated just announced that the 10 commandments may be defied because the former method of observation was based on a wrong interpretation.

240 posted on 08/28/2003 7:31:02 PM PDT by RWG
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