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Federal Judge Agrees to Hear 10 Commandments Case
Fox News | August 28, 2003 | Fox News

Posted on 08/28/2003 11:53:56 AM PDT by Peach

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To: lugsoul
WASHINGTON – A leading scholar of the First Amendment says if he were Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, he would "rather go to jail" than allow the Ten Commandments to be removed from his court building.

In an exclusive interview with NewsMax.com, Dr. David Lowenthal, emeritus professor of political Science at Boston College, said the Founding Fathers would be appalled at the federal court order for the removal of the Ten Commandments monument.

"I would not want to go to jail," he said, "but if I had to, I wouldn’t give up on the principle" that Justice Moore is defending "that cuts across all lines that [concern] first of all, states’ rights, and ... the proper interpretation of the First Amendment."

To compare Moore’s refusal to bow to the atheist/left-wing/ACLU axis with George Wallace’s standing in the schoolhouse door to preserve segregation in 1962 is ludicrous, declares Lowenthal, author of the new book "Present Dangers: Rediscovering the First Amendment."

Furthermore, this "present danger," as he calls it, predates the uproar that began 40 yeas ago when the courts started chasing religion out of classrooms. For 70 years, he argues, the courts have willfully misinterpreted the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment in an attempt to banish religion from public life. Such court decisions betray "a gross misunderstanding" of the Constitution, Lowenthal says.

No 'Separation' Is Mandated

Contrary to federal court decisions, Lowenthal says, the First Amendment to the Constitution does not require "a perfect separation of church and state, that there be no vestige of religion in the state or in public life or in government." Furthermore, "even the [U.S.] Supreme Court has edged away from that view in recent decades."

Note that the phrase "separation of church and state" parroted by anti-religious extremists appears nowhere in the U.S. Constitution, a fact that many Americans miseducated by government schools do not know.

It is not only the First Amendment that is distorted beyond its meaning by the courts, but the Fourteenth Amendment as well. And that raises the question in this scholar’s mind as to whether the Supreme Court of the United States has jurisdiction over the Alabama Supreme Court in matters of this kind. Lowenthal agrees with Moore that it does not.

Ratified after the Civil War, the Fourteenth Amendment says that no state shall deprive any person of life, liberty or due process of law, the noted authority notes.

"The word ‘liberty’ there has been interpreted by the Supreme Court to include" a meaning far beyond what was intended.

"You see, originally that was intended to simply make sure that blacks and whites were treated equally under the law, particularly in the Southern states after the Civil War," Lowenthal explained to NewsMax. "It was not meant for the Supreme Court to be the judge of what constitutes human liberty. That was left to the states just so long as they treated people equally." Thus, the court "has enormously expanded its authority over the states."

As for the decision by Moore’s colleagues on the Alabama Supreme Court to oppose him: "It seems to me that any state worth its salt would not submit to this kind of thing."

Lowenthal said: "Obviously Justice Roy Moore believes that it’s wrong. Otherwise he wouldn’t be doing this. He would bow down to the federal judiciary. But he doesn’t think that he has to. I don’t think so either."

41 posted on 08/28/2003 12:59:06 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: wardaddy
You cannot apologise for someone else. It is meaningless. And whether or not I'm Godless as you call it is none of your business much less relevant.
42 posted on 08/28/2003 1:01:24 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
Or maybe he doesn't care what 4 in 5 people say. Like any good judge would

Talk to your liberal SCOTUS pals. Part of their rationale for striking down state sodomy laws was that, supposedly, a majority of people don't care anymore. More than that, a glot of Euroweenie intellectuals convinced them that sodomy was hip, de rigeur.

For progressive federal judges, the views of the "majority" don't matter, but only if those views don't coincide with their own.

43 posted on 08/28/2003 1:02:42 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: microgood
it must be dizzying to look down on all of us from such a lofty height.

It's not too lofty above many on these threads.

44 posted on 08/28/2003 1:03:04 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: lugsoul; wardaddy

Moore and many of his minions

AMENDMENT ONE Americans disapprove of federal court orderto remove 10 Commandments (77%!!)

47 posted on 08/28/2003 1:04:08 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Protagoras
It's not too lofty above many on these threads.

That one I'll have to give you.
49 posted on 08/28/2003 1:04:50 PM PDT by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
It may be difficult for you to recognize, but there is a difference between agreeing with the order and casting the judge who decided the case as a godless renegade who was making up the law as he went along.
51 posted on 08/28/2003 1:06:07 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: Protagoras
Oh I get it now Mr Friendly.

You may be an atheist or at a minimum an anti-theist.

Sorry for being civl.

You may now hurl insults at will.

53 posted on 08/28/2003 1:07:21 PM PDT by wardaddy ("when shrimps learn to whistle")
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Polls like that give the anti-pluralists heartburn.

I recommend Alka-Mints...the best short of Tagamet.
54 posted on 08/28/2003 1:08:47 PM PDT by wardaddy ("when shrimps learn to whistle")
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To: Revolutionary
Their rights are being violated under the "free exercise" clause.

They can't freely excercise their right to worship without Judge Moore's private monument being in the rotunda of the Alabama Supreme Court building? Bizarre logic. I guess their rights were being violated up until two years ago when Moore put it there. Funny stuff.

57 posted on 08/28/2003 1:10:28 PM PDT by HurkinMcGurkin
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To: Protagoras; Kevin Curry; All
Stop the flamewar now.
58 posted on 08/28/2003 1:11:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: lugsoul
It is excusable for you a private citizen to be ignorant or confused about the U.S. Constitution. It is inexcusable for a federal judge.
59 posted on 08/28/2003 1:12:54 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Protagoras; Williams
And if you see it that way many here will accuse you of being anti-religion or even anti-God.

That's the sad part.

60 posted on 08/28/2003 1:15:24 PM PDT by jimt
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