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SAT Scores at an all time high!
http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/about/news_info/cbsenior/yr2002/pdf/CBS2002Report.pdf ^

Posted on 08/28/2003 11:18:37 AM PDT by balanced

Something else positive to post. Math SAT scores in 2002 were 516. That matches the 1967 value of 516. But, most importantly, 46% of students now take the SAT whereas much fewer did in 1967. Also way more minorities take the SAT now (whites scored 533 in 2002, which is way above the mostly white 1967 crowd). All things considered, I think it is fair to say this is the best SAT result ever!! Congratulates students.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: math; matheducation; sat; satschoolscores; testing
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To: balanced
>> What is a "jacobian matrix"?

A rectangular array of radical republicans during the French Revolution.

Or given a set of functions, Y = F(X) and Yi = {Y1, Y2, ... Ym} and X = {X1, X2...Xn} then the Jacobian Matrix, J, is a matrix such that Jij = dYi/dXj. Any other questions?
41 posted on 08/28/2003 4:20:36 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay and Idi-ay are ead-day)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
What is a "jacobian matrix"?

A rectangular array of radical republicans during the French Revolution

I think from high school chemistry - that would make them Free Radicals?

42 posted on 08/28/2003 4:38:09 PM PDT by ctonious
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To: ctonious
>> I think from high school chemistry - that would make them Free Radicals?

The only two things I remember from High School Chemistry are:

1.) pH is the negative of the logarithm of the concentration of hydronium ions, expressed in gram equivalents.

2.) The atmosphere is 1% methane, largely due to bovine flatulence.
43 posted on 08/29/2003 2:17:54 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay and Idi-ay are ead-day)
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To: Zavien Doombringer; All
John Huang has an excellent post/thread where these new and wonderful SAT scores are looked at. Conclusion, Affirmative Action is needed more than ever.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972651/posts

New Test Scores, Old B-S.
By Tom Reeves
National Association of Scholars | August 29, 2003


Recently announced SAT scores for 2003 prompted the College Board's president and others to rejoice at the progress being made in the nation's high schools. The gains were modest, to be sure. Verbal scores for women increased by only one point, and men's scores rose three points. Both men and women enjoyed a gain of three points in mathematics. Still, the math scores were the highest in more than 35 years. A record 1.4 million high school students took the examination.

Not everyone was jubilant. The Center for Education Reform, a Washington non-profit group that monitors SAT examinations, issued a statement contending that the examination had been dumbed down in recent years and that scores were inflated. The statement noted that students were given more time to take the math test and were able to use calculators on some questions. "The news is actually pretty bad," Center officials declared. The saddest result of the recent SATs is the continuation of the gap between whites and most minorities (described by some journalists as a gap between rich and poor). African-American math scores, for example, were down a point from the previous year; as were the scores of American Indians and Hispanic and Latinos.

Overall math scores are at 519 out of 800; African-Americans scored 426. Overall verbal scores are now 507 out of 800; African-Americans are at 432 (up one point from the previous year). Mexican Americans scored 457 in math (unchanged), and 448 (up two points) in verbal. In sharp contrast, Whites are at 534 in math (up a point) and 529 in verbal (up two points). Asian Americans are at 575 in math (up six points) and 508 in verbal (up seven points).

The most provocative evaluation of the test scores came from Seppy Basili, vice president for learning and assessment at Kaplan, Inc., a test-preparation company. He declared, "If the last ten years [of SAT scores] are any indication, affirmative action is going to be even more important" in the future. What could he have meant? That minorities should be granted favors by educators and even employers because of their lower scores? Is he arguing that lower scores require rewards at the expense of those successful in the examinations? Reverse discrimination in the frantic national race to gain admittance to select colleges and universities is well documented and has been sanctioned by the United States Supreme Court, albeit by the barest of margins.

Is Mr. Basili now saying that such discrimination should increase now that minority students are failing to keep up with the gains being made by others? If so, is he basing this judgment on the assumption that racial discrimination continues to produce the lower test scores, and thus we are all to blame and must pay the consequences of our sin by being denied equality? I would argue that the gap in test scores should teach us another lesson. I think it urgent to create a national effort to confront and somehow change a culture, enjoyed by millions of minorities and others, that dismisses serious education, fosters militant anti-intellectualism, and exalts the lowest forms of personal behavior and popular entertainment. It is extremely difficult if not impossible for teachers and professors to convey the joys of learning to those who see no point to schooling and long for little more in life than sensual gratification and cash.

The exaltation of the icons of this rock bottom culture by the media at all levels in recent years is surely harmful to untold millions of young people and to the nation 's future. Walk into a classroom, as I have many times, and begin lecturing to students dressed as clowns and prostitutes, proud of their tattoos and nose clips, eager only to clap on the headphones at the end of the hour and be surrounded by screaming Rock and rap stars. They want no part of what you have to say, and see themselves as prisoners and victims. Where in their entire lives do they see people who are thoughtful, educated, and enthralled with the highest cultural expressions of our civilization?

If educators truly want to raise SAT and ACT scores, they must not only raise their academic standards, as some already have, but speak out and take action against the popular culture that hinders and prohibits their ability to bring knowledge and wisdom to young people. And educators can't do this supremely important task alone. In a nod in the direction of this major problem, President Bill Clinton once endorsed school uniforms. Government and industry at all levels need to look at the national test scores, think how high they might realistically be, and begin taking steps to encourage learning, personal responsibility, integrity, and hard work for all young Americans. It may not be "cool." It may be "dated." But it will certainly be wise.

44 posted on 08/29/2003 8:29:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (No more 9/11's! Kill the Islamokazis and the Islamofascists in the Middle East!)
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To: Grampa Dave
I checked out the site, but found it to be a bunch of hand waving arguments. I note that they favor school vouchers; could that explain why they are looking so hard to discredit these gains? We should be interested in objective truth, not spin. For example, they say that the problems have been "dumbed down", but do not give any evidence or examples. (Wouldn't you love to see someone take a copy of a 1960s SAT and give it to a bunch of today's kids to see the comparison? Done under the right conditions, this could prove or disprove the "dumbing down" criticism.)

Anyway, I provided independent measures, including some international ones, all showing good progress on American schools. Unless the NCES, the OECD, the college board, and others are all colluding in a gigantic conspiracy, I think it can be concluded that schools are improving.

I also offer as evidence my own experience. My kids are doing advanced math, working nearly 3 hrs everynight on homework, reading very heavy english texts and writing an essay a week, etc. I've also spoken to many other parents on this. All of us agree that kids today study harder than we did. I've never yet met a parent yet who says school was harder when they were kids. Any parents out there who agree or disagree?
45 posted on 08/29/2003 12:03:34 PM PDT by balanced
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To: balanced
My kids are studying harder than I did, as well. But because I send them to a private school.

Regarding the SAT, my oldest (13yrs) is scoring PHS in most subject catagories.

I know he's a sharp kid, smarter than I was at his age, but what does it say about the state of public education that as an eighth grader he's on par or better with the average high school grad?

46 posted on 08/29/2003 12:17:55 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: balanced
My daughter is reading and writing at a higher level than when I was in public schools. But I live in an upscale town. I am, in general, very disappointed by the emphasis on "respect" and "diversity." Only the parents are primarily focused on academic excellence. The schools gets dragged along by a demanding set of customers. This is not to the school's credit.

When I stop hearing diversity blather and the principal pounds that table and roars about "we'll kick everyone's ass at the MCAS!" THEN I'll have nice things to say about public schools. Until then, anyone not fortunate enough to afford a house in a top school district or a top private schools should homeschool.
47 posted on 08/29/2003 12:49:33 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: balanced
My judgment is that my kids aren't getting quite as good an education as I did, particularly in math and science. English is sub-par also, except for the occasional excellent teacher. I think History, Government and Geography are somewhat better. And, there's a much wider array of electives, some quite demanding like AP Psychology, AP Sociology and AP Art History. On balance, though, giving primacy to the basics, I don't think it's as good.

And, they're MUCH more alienated from school than I was. Public high schools are WAY too big these days.
48 posted on 08/29/2003 1:15:18 PM PDT by walden
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To: balanced
I hate you.
49 posted on 09/02/2003 11:05:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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