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Dr. James Dobson: "We're Not Going To The Back of The Bus"
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Posted on 08/28/2003 10:38:47 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

Dr. James Dobson, a well-known and respected national Christian leader in speaking at a rally in front of the Alabama Courthouse containing the disputed monument of the Ten Commandments compared the ongoing struggle with that of the Black equal rights movement of the 1950's.

Dr. Dobson described the irony of how in 1955 when Rosa Parks refused to "Go to the back of the bus." by racially-driven bigots sparked a national equal rights movment and said that another national "movement" was now underway to protect the rights of Christians.

Dr. Dobson declared, "We are not going to the back of the bus!" in alluding to a growing consensus of Christian-Americans who would no longer tolerate being treated as citizens with lesser rights.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: drdobson; equalrights; jamesdobson; reliigon; tencommandments
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To: Happy2BMe
You have to admit that when the majority of your citizens have to worry about not offending an intolerant minority that there has to be a problem.

Patriot Paradox

221 posted on 08/28/2003 7:42:27 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 (The Patriot Paradox: Conservative Interview Series Coming Soon...)
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To: f.Christian
using civil authority for religious purposes - persecution ---

is the definition of the anti christ - tyranny !

yes and that is EXACTLY what the judge was doing... using his civil authority to promote HIS religion... and in AMERICA that is ILLEGAL... and the EXACT reason why the founders did EVERYTHING in their power to keep religion OUT of government, and government OUT of religion.

KEEPING religious symbols OUT of government is NOT the act that brings about the antichrist... it's the joining the two that puts the devil in the chair...

222 posted on 08/28/2003 7:44:17 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: f.Christian
good night.
223 posted on 08/28/2003 7:44:31 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Emphasis on the word "majority."

Take the Poll

Do you agree with a federal judge's ruling last week that a Ten Commandments monument at the Alabama Judicial Building violates the Constitution's ban on government establishment of religion and must be removed?
Yes  11.6% 52
No  87.9% 393
No Opinion  0.4%

224 posted on 08/28/2003 7:47:46 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: atlaw
"I understand the issues perfectly.

Your responses do not seem to reflect much undestanding of the issues voiced by Justice Moore. In fact, they seem to reflect disdain for the very rule of law itself.

225 posted on 08/28/2003 7:49:21 PM PDT by Ginosko
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To: ArGee
"More importantly, if it had been a 6 foot tall cylindrical monument celebrating homosexuals in the law, it would be standing there today and anyone who complained about it would be a "hatemonger."

So far, anyone who's had a difference of opinion on that monument and posted their thoughts on why, has been labeled a "God hater", anti-American, a ACLU-type, and worse...tell me the difference between that, and what you detailed in your post.

226 posted on 08/28/2003 7:55:45 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (There's no such thing as a stupid question, there are however, many inquisitive morons out there...)
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To: atlaw
"This display of juvenile behavior over a golden calf is embarrassing and demeaning to our faith and destructive to our efforts to draw others to our faith."


a freeper who gets it!
227 posted on 08/28/2003 8:00:56 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Well, you certainly have managed to misrepresent the thrust of Madison's views. The expression "separation of church and state" had not yet been voiced. Jefferson penned those words in 1802 some 17 years later.
228 posted on 08/28/2003 8:04:42 PM PDT by Ginosko
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To: sonsofliberty2000
" You have to admit that when the majority of your citizens have to worry about not offending an intolorant minority that there has to be a problem."

Who can argue with that. Which intolorant minority are you referring to? Blacks? Illegal aliens? Homosexuals? Abortionists? Femi-nazis? Peta? Green Peace? Athiests? Ignostics? Global warming alarmists? SUV phoebes? Anti gun rightites? etc., etc., etc.

Christians can hardly be referred to as either a minority or intolorant, when compared to those dog wagging tails.
229 posted on 08/28/2003 8:05:57 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Our enemies within are very slick, but slime is always treacherously slick, isn't it?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
well luis...
How many times you been named "anti christ" this week?
for believing the bible...

How many times you been called baby killer, for supporting someone other than T. McC?

I find it shuddering to think, what the "freedom of the judge to impose his faith" folks would do to other Americans, if only they could get away with it...
not exactly the voices of reason eh?

The more you try to explain with historical data... the more they foam, and punch the abuse button while screaming... "do NOT tell me the truth, I KNOW it ALL..."

Kennedy, Crouch, Falwell, Keyes, B. Hinn and the rest really need to tone down the rhetoric before some more of God's sheep, get hurt... (not them of course, they are SOOO far above us you know)
230 posted on 08/28/2003 8:07:08 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Ginosko
It has been said that Jefferson received some of his inspiration on the matter from Madison... fwiw.
231 posted on 08/28/2003 8:08:43 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Those who choose the low road of their own free will, have no right to complain that every thing this side of hell, is s-o-o-o-o-o far above them.
232 posted on 08/28/2003 8:11:43 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Our enemies within are very slick, but slime is always treacherously slick, isn't it?)
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To: DonQ
Dobson, who has managed to worm his way onto the evening news for years, tries to hijack the reputation and nobility of the Civil Rights Movement for a church-subsidized artwork whose presence in the lobby of the Alabama Supreme Court benefitted no one - certainly not anyone in the other 49 states - and irritated some people who were compelled by circumstance to come to the courthouse. That artwork - essentially a massive church altar - could legally be put in a whole flock of places, but just not a govt building where some people are compelled to come in hoping for equal treatment regardless of religious affiliations.

Well said and worth repeating.

The idea that a 2 ton rock has to remain in a public building as some sort of symbolism of God remaining in power is so phony, it's almost idolatry.

I think these people are an embarrassment to Christianity and will drive more people from Christ than that representation of the 10 Commandments could ever convert.

Where in the Bible do we see Jesus or the apostles commanding that the 10 Commandments or scripture be publically displayed in Government buildings?

233 posted on 08/28/2003 8:14:18 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: F.J. Mitchell
My apologies. Athiests and agnostics are the minority of which I refered.

Patriot Paradox

234 posted on 08/28/2003 8:14:41 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 (The Patriot Paradox: Conservative Interview Series Coming Soon...)
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To: Ginosko
they say madison got it from this baptist guy :

Roger Williams wrote in 1644: “First, the faithful labors of many witnesses of Jesus Christ, extant to the world, abundantly proving that the church of the Jews under the Old Testament in the type of the church of the Christians under the New Testament in the antitype were both separate from the world; and that when they have opened a gap in the hedge or wall of separation between the garden of the church and the wilderness of the world, God hath ever broke down the wall itself, removed the candlestick, and made His garden a wilderness, as at this day. And that therefore if He will ever please to restore His garden and paradise again, it must of necessity be walled in peculiarly unto Himself from the world, and that all that shall be saved out of the world are to be transplanted out of the wilderness of the world, and added unto His church or garden” (Roger Williams, A Letter to Mr. John Cottons [1643], quoted in Leonard W. Levy, The Establishment Clause: Religion and the First Amendment [1986], p. 184).

Roger Williams founded the Baptist Church.
Madison came later... but was familiar with the materials Williams wrote.

235 posted on 08/28/2003 8:14:53 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Jorge
Where in the Bible do we see Jesus or the apostles commanding that the 10 Commandments or scripture be publically displayed in Government buildings?


How dare you ask that question? It upsets the natives.
236 posted on 08/28/2003 8:15:50 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Ginosko
Roger Williams also founded Rhode Island...
237 posted on 08/28/2003 8:17:58 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Jefferson's understanding of the phrase "separation of church and state" had little in common with those voiced by Justice Black in Everson v. Board of Education, in 1947 as well as all of the misguided Supreme Court decisions since then.

The so-called "wall of separation" had less to do with the separation of church and civil government than with the separation between state and federal governments. Black was wrong! Very wrong! That mistake needs to be rectified.

238 posted on 08/28/2003 8:18:46 PM PDT by Ginosko
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Me again, Louie!

I see your liberal debate class score is still in the balance.

(Hey - you got any 6' statues of funny boys laying around?)

#: > )

239 posted on 08/28/2003 8:19:28 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
"How dare you ask that question? It upsets the natives."

Robert - how dare you upset the creator of the natives!

(You are a Creationist, aren't you?

240 posted on 08/28/2003 8:21:22 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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