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Champions League Soccer Thread
UEFA | August 28 | n/a

Posted on 08/28/2003 9:32:45 AM PDT by jjbrouwer

The draw for the 2003/2004 Champions League has been made with Chelsea and Manchester United earning favourable groups.

Arsenal and Celtic have a tough task though and Rangers are in Man U's group.

This year it goes to a straight knockout after the first group stage. This should suit Chelsea (now the world's richest club) as they are more of a cup team. They are surely worth a flutter at odds of 16-1 for the tournament.

Champions League draw (British teams in CAPS):

Group A
1. Bayern Munich
2. Lyon
3. CELTIC
4. Anderlecht


Group B
1. ARSENAL
2. Inter Milan
3. Dynamo Kiev
4. Lokomotiv Moscow

Group C 1. Deportivo La Coruna
2. PSV Eindhoven
3. AEK Athens
4. Monaco


Group D
1. Juventus
2. Galatasaray
3. Olympiakos
4. Real Sociedad


Group E
1. MANCHESTER UNITED
2. Panathinaikos
3. RANGERS
4. VfB Stuttgart


Group F
1. Real Madrid
2. Porto
3. Marseille
4. Partizan Belgrade


Group G
1. Lazio
2. CHELSEA
3. Sparta Prague
4. Besiktas

Group H
1. AC Milan
2. Celta Vigo
3. Ajax
4. Club Brugge

Championship Betting

Real Madrid 7/2

Man Utd 5/1

Juventus 8/1

Bayern Munich 8/1

A C Milan 9/1

Arsenal 11/1

Inter Milan 14/1

Dep La Coruna 16/1

Chelsea 16/1

Celta Vigo 25/1

Lazio 28/1

Porto 40/1

P S V Eindhoven 40/1

Galatasaray 50/1

Celtic 50/1

Ajax 50/1

Real Sociedad 50/1

Lyon 50/1

Rangers 66/1

Panathinaikos 66/1

Marseille 80/1

Monaco 80/1

Stuttgart 100/1

Sparta Prague 100/1

Olympiakos 125/1

Dynamo Kiev 125/1

Besiktas 125/1

Anderlecht 125/1

Partizan Belgrade 150/1

Club Brugge 150/1

A E K Athens 150/1


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: arsenal; chelsea; european; football; manchesterunited; soccer
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1 posted on 08/28/2003 9:32:46 AM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: jjbrouwer
Soccer/futbol bump

Glad to see you're posting over here on this site, too.

2 posted on 08/28/2003 9:38:15 AM PDT by babaloo999
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3 posted on 08/28/2003 9:39:42 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Champions League!)
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So, ya putting money on Chelski? Bayern Munich, ManU, and Real Madrid have pretty good draws I think. Arsenal might have a tougher time of it. Should be fun.
4 posted on 08/28/2003 9:40:23 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: babaloo999
Not sure how many footie fans there are here but it's worth a try. Should be a great year for the boys in blue. We have a new Russian owner who has already spent about 170 million dollars on new players.

Who says you can't buy success...?

5 posted on 08/28/2003 9:41:18 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Champions League!)
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How delicious would a Real Madrid-Manchester United match be?
6 posted on 08/28/2003 9:44:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dogbyte12
Man United and Real are always safe bets to get to the late stages but they do occasionally falter. Juventus have been thrashed by Man U on more than one occasion lately and Bayern are pretty ordinary.

I'm thinking by the time it gets round to the semi-finals our boys will have fully blended and could even be the favourites.

They might be worth a flutter as an each-way bet. That means you win something even if they just get to the semis.

7 posted on 08/28/2003 9:44:21 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Champions League!)
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I'm quite sure Real will meet Man U at some stage. It would be great to see Beckham knock Man U out with one of his free kicks.
8 posted on 08/28/2003 9:45:29 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Champions League!)
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By what criteria do the teams qualify for the tournament?
9 posted on 08/28/2003 9:47:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Ryan Giggs has scored two class goals on free kicks, once in pre season, and once against Bolton opening day. It would be even more ironic if Giggs hits one to beat Real Madrid, and Beckham hits one off the post.

Beckham scored a goal yesterday off a header, that should shut up the Spanish media for a bit.

10 posted on 08/28/2003 9:47:39 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: jjbrouwer
Soccer threads usually get pummelled pretty good over here.
I'm really only interested in the English leagues, but
I think I'll be glad to watch some this if I get a chance.
11 posted on 08/28/2003 9:47:46 AM PDT by babaloo999
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To: dogbyte12
The Spanish press will go overboard on Beckham, either eulogising about him or slagging him off.

He hadn't played badly until yesterday, he had just been pretty ordinary. But if he scores a few more flashy free kicks they will hero worship him.

12 posted on 08/28/2003 9:56:11 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Champions League!)
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I'll take AC Milan at 9 to 1. I like long-shots.
13 posted on 08/28/2003 9:58:29 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dfwgator
By what criteria do the teams qualify for the tournament?

Though it is called the "Champions League", second and third placed teams in each European country's national leagues are sometimes also eligible.

In the old days when Liverpool and Nottingham Forest used to win it, only the national champions and the winners of the previous year's tournament were eligible.

14 posted on 08/28/2003 9:59:09 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Champions League!)
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OK, this is great---just be prepared for the "Soccer's for wimps" crowd to come out of the woodwork anytime now.....

Chelsea is a decent pick for a lot of reasons this year--

PSV Eindhoven may make a surprisingly good run as well---they have looked sharp in the Eredivise so far.

15 posted on 08/28/2003 10:01:59 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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If I was going for an Italian team I'd pick AC Milan or Inter Milan. The funny thing is AC Milan are actually the champions but everyone has written them off.

Juventus got to the final last year to everyone's surprise - after they'd been beaten twice in the group by Manchester United. Then they got thrashed 4-1 by Man U in the American pre-season tournament.

16 posted on 08/28/2003 10:02:29 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Champions League!)
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To: Sam's Army
The Brittish home office rejected Bobby Convey's transfer to Tottenham today. They slagged on him too. He isn't eligible to reapply for another 12 months.

Claudio Reyna is signing with Manchester City today. Fulham is pissed, they put up a statement, kinda slagging Sunderland for holding out on them, until Manchester City came up with the better offer. Something north of 2 million pounds I have heard.

17 posted on 08/28/2003 10:07:45 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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That's interesting---I had heard that Reyna was linked w/Everton.

Too bad on Convey, but really---there's no shame in missing out to (maybe) go to Germany or elsewhere to cut your teeth.

Guy I played with years ago got ditched via the work permit route by Sheffield United---he was in some pretty good company though as a Brazilian got the same treatment as well (can't remember the Brazilian's name).

18 posted on 08/28/2003 10:11:22 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: Sam's Army
"Soccer's for wimps" crowd to come out of the woodwork anytime now.

< bracing > They'll be along shortly....

19 posted on 08/28/2003 10:16:06 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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uh oh....
20 posted on 08/28/2003 10:17:42 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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