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To: Ethan_Allen
Sure. FReepmail me your e-mail address, please. BTW, the word that keeps coming up here....choice. From VES's website (Voluntary Euthanasia Society - UK) We want to make back-street suicides and 'mercy killings' a thing of the past. Sound familiar?? It should. It's the banner under which the immoral, murderous abomination of abortion was ridden into the US. It's the same people. And some in the '60s said Roe would never happen. Well, it did. And this will too, without a tremendous amount of public outcry.
5,074 posted on 09/20/2003 11:17:36 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Terri's story must be told to the masses. Pray with us for this woman and her family.)
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To: MarMema
Have you seen this? The link is below the text.

Those who have signed the misnamed "Living Will" have already chosen death, however, unknowingly. "The Will," as the Washington Post's B.D. Colen (no closet pro-lifer) writes, "would authorize the murder of virtually anyone who filled out a Will, lost consciousness for a period of time, and would in some way be incapacitated upon regaining consciousness."

In The National Law Journal, attorney Seymour Levine observes, "The living will is a written instrument by which an individual declares in advance what his wishes are regarding medical treatment if he is not capable of speaking for himself." "To reinforce the lesson that patients' wishes are to be heeded, many have signed living wills," Bowen Hosford, another lawyer, notes in Making Your Medical Decisions.

"Choice" is the banner of the euthanasia movement, as it is of others seeking to kill the unwanted and the inconvenient. But is it a flag whose colors are false?

Despite her clearly expressed but unwritten desire for treatment, Mrs. Wanglie is a prime euthanasia target and her danger of dying from medical murder is anything but abstract.

Mrs. Wanglie entered a coma while in a Minnesota hospital last May when medical staff failed to resuscitate her in time to prevent it. The following month the Hennepin County Medical Center began its campaign to pull the plug on the life of this 87 year-old daughter of a Lutheran minister, who believes, as does CURE, that "Only He Who gave life has the right to take it." It is time to say that even doctors who think they're God are not.

I regret Mrs. Wanglie did not have the opportunity to sign a Life Support Directive (as thousands have done). When a media that spends hours of airtime and pages of print to promote the "living will" will not spare a minute or a word reporting on its opposite, the Life Support Directive, it is not surprising. And when hospitals encourage staff to witness "living wills" but forbid them to witness the Life Support Directives the question of choice or con gains further urgency.

I've sat in courtrooms where the lives of those living in coma (as my Dad did from February, 1981 through September, 1990) were tossed on the human garbage heap on the hear-say "evidence" of casual acquaintances based on off-hand remarks that would have been judged ludicrous had something more valuable than human life, say property, been at stake.

But Helga's husband, Oliver, a retired attorney experienced in testimony, recounts that his wife of more than half a century expressly told him, "If anything happens to me, I want everything done."

Yet despite the clear evidence of Mrs. Wanglie and the consistent objections of Mr. Wanglie and of the couple's adult children, David and Ruth, doctors at Hennepin County Medical Center remain determined to continue their efforts to bring about her death. So much for "choice." So much for "patients' rights."

http://cureltd.home.netcom.com/choose.htm

Thought that if you haven't, you'd like to.
5,075 posted on 09/20/2003 11:25:54 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Terri's story must be told to the masses. Pray with us for this woman and her family.)
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To: kimmie7
Why is there no public outcry kimmie?
I have alerted many media who have said they have been overruled about talking about it.
Why is that?
What can we do in spite of that?
Fay
5,076 posted on 09/20/2003 11:26:52 PM PDT by yesnettv (We need to decide to save Terri's life. I did.)
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To: kimmie7
Well, now that's downright interesting. As I said, I haven't been able to be on this thread full time, and have not read all the posts. I googled VES (spelled out) with Rockefeller and came up with the following very interesting chapter of a book. Most interesting about the state of Florida trying to implement this in 1968! I guess I missed this. Was this passed after that time, or is this the precedent that they need to get this enacted? Please explain....

THE MEN BEHIND HITLER - THE SAME OLD TUNE CHAPTER IX
http://www.toolan.com/hitler/sameold.html (scroll down to
'a bill to be entitled')
5,077 posted on 09/20/2003 11:45:48 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen ( Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: kimmie7
We want to make back-street suicides and 'mercy killings' a thing of the past.

Wow. Wesley said something once, everything old is new again, I think it was. Wow. They must have figured it worked so well the first time around, after all.

5,086 posted on 09/21/2003 12:13:13 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: cpforlife.org
Hello! Could you ping your list to this quote? Truly, research is showing that the pro-aborts are trying to slip euthanasia in under the same banner as Roe.

Sliding further down the slippery slope.....

Thanks!
5,099 posted on 09/21/2003 12:50:58 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Terri's story must be told to the masses. Pray with us for this woman and her family.)
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