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Nancy sent me the link to this -

euthanasia

And she said in her email that the Patient Self Determination Act, which was not voted on, but went through in some budget thing, meant that "clear and convincing evidence" was no longer needed, as it had been in the Cruzan case, which she thinks spurred the Act, at the federal level. We've all,unfortunately, been mostly asleep at the wheel and the rest of the world still is asleep at the wheel.

Our only hope longterm in fighting this is the legislature, and Terri doesn't have that time. I am praying for her attorneys though.

With God all things are possible

I'll take some info to church this morning, but Lord,the hour is late, and none of these people have even heard about all this stuff.

2,020 posted on 09/07/2003 7:57:13 AM PDT by MarMema
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Thank you, MarMema.

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8 AnnaZ's Interview w/ Bob Schindler, Jr. - Terri Schindler-Schiavo's brother

A: I'ts incredibly horrible. Those videos came out in July. It's getting to the point where when the charges went out (at) the website we're affiliated with, which is Free Republic.com....Jeb Bush received 27,000 e-mails. That obviously then did propel him to write that letter. Wrote what I thought to be a very well thought out letter to the judges that are involved. Because 27,000 e-mails represents a lot of people.
 
B: It certainly does, and I think Jeb Bush, being a human being, and I'm told there was research done on the case, and anybody that researches this case and discovers what is going on, I thinks as Jeb Bush did, (feels) helpless..wanting to involve (themselves). Because it is, you know it is just mystifying to us how these judges, it is really one judge in particular that has just (visibly) protected Michael (out of this) whole group of people the last 3 years...
 
A: O.k., Now, this is Judge Greer?
 
B: Judge George Greer.
 
A:  How much information has your side given him? Has he seen these videos?
 
B: They were at the trial..and, you know, interestingly enough, Judge Greer, in his ruling, even said that, uh, that Terri shows some response, and it was almost like she didn't respond enough for Judge Greer in order for him to rule where she was aware. But if you look at Florida law, to be in a PVS position, you have to show absolutely no, NO response, uh, or awareness of your environment..Terri clearly, that's what our attorney (responded)..Terri clearly, under Florida law, does not fit the PVS category.
 
A: Which is Permanent Vegetative State.
 
B: Permanent Vegetative State
 
A: Right
 
B: NO response, at all! No response at all to her environment.
 
A: Which is obviously not what we're seeing. Terri has shown more response than the guy who has come out of a 19-year coma in Arkansas - and asked for a Pepsi. Terri is more active than he was.
 
B: I fully agree.
 
A: Is there something sneaky there with Judge Greer..something weird between him and (this) husband?
 
B: It certainly doesn't makes you wonder...about the American justice system. The truth is what the judge says it is. So (much is) in control of this Judge and as long as he is ruling in this case, uh, we're in a lot of trouble - Terri's in a lot of trouble, unfortunately.
 
A: (Anna talks about a seeming nationwide trend of 'judicial tyranny'.)..'judges undermining and overturning the concensus of vast amounts of people..Judges are supposed to be about enforcing the laws that we already have..
 
  If we can prove, which obviously you've already been able to do, that Terri is NOT in a 'permanent vegetative state', I just don't understand why we need to continue...I don't know. It just seems there's got to be something there.
 
B: The same Judge refused to let (we asked) 3 doctors testify that Terri's able to swallow food, which means she can eat..We went to Judge Greer's court and asked him - we had a hearing - we asked the Judge to please give Terri, allow Terri a simple swallow test to see if she can eat. A swallowing test, to see if she has the capability of eating would take less than a day. He denied it.
 
A: Now, has he met Terri? Has he seen Terri himself?
 
B: Only through the videos. He's never gone down to visit her.
 
A: That's interesting, because he wants to preside and decide over whether she should live or die, but has decided not to go look her in the eye first?
 
B: That's absolutely correct.
 
A: There's something wrong right there.
 
B: Well, you would think he would want to go down and see for himself the person that he's ruling on, just how 'brain dead' she really is.
 
A: I would.
 
B: I would, myself, too - to have a clear conscience. Maybe he doesn't want to go down for that reason. He would see how alive and how responsive Terri is.

2,021 posted on 09/07/2003 8:07:04 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Americans do not turn away from duties because they are hard." - Pres. GW Bush)
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