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To: blueriver
It is so hard to believe that so many laws are allowed to be broken at the hands of the judicial system

Actually they are not being broken, They are being MADE, case by case.

Each time one of these cases goes to the Supreme Court, and the person is killed, afterward the state amends it's natural death act - to include more leniency, etc.

In Colorado right now you have only 7 days to emerge from a coma or you can be killed by your family. Hey, one week or say goodbye. geeze, talk about rushing these people out the door.

At the same time, interestingly enough, both the UK and New Zealand are in the process of making it illegal to starve or dehydrate a person, even if they are terminally ill and desire it.

1,929 posted on 09/06/2003 10:32:48 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Actually they are not being broken, They are being MADE, case by case.

Times sure have changed. I recall many years ago the case about a girl named Kathleen Quinlin. I think the family wanted to pull the plug but the courts would not allow it. The courts are now acting like God choosing death for people that are disabled. I think it use to be that unless someone specifically documented that they would prefer death that they were not allowed to be killed. This is a very slippery slope where judges in this country have way to much power. It needs to be stopped.

1,936 posted on 09/06/2003 11:01:58 PM PDT by blueriver
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To: MarMema; All
Another thing that really bothers me about this case is where they get off saying that Terri wouldn't want to live like this.

First off, if she left no advance directive, it can't be assumed one way or the other how Terri felt.

Secondly, people change their minds once they're in a given situation. IOW, even IF Terri mentioned (casually) that she wouldn't want to continue under these "circumstances", she might feel differently once she got there.

Finally, and this is really puzzling to me, why don't the "experts" understand that Terri living like this for so long may be TERRI'S WAY of showing that she wants to live! Her will to live is so strong!!

As I've mentioned before, my father passed away in February. Although his situation was very different, there are some similarities. To make a long story short, we had his ventilating tube removed, because he had told us that was what he wanted. He was conscious and could converse a little with us. The important thing we learned from the doctors and nurses was that we would know what he wanted because he would "declare" himself. We didn't know what that meant, and they explained that almost always, the patient's body will show what their wishes are by whether it clings to life and tries to fight for everything it's got, or it will give up. IMHO, Terri has been doing JUST THAT for all these years! She has been "declaring" that she wants to live, by not needing a ventilator, by having stable heart rhythyms, etc. She may not be able to tell us with her mouth, but she is trying to tell us with everything she's got left!

How can these monsters live with themselves?
1,941 posted on 09/06/2003 11:06:28 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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