Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:

Various ^ | August 28, 2003

[syriacus]

Nice list. Thank you!!

I think this article from the St. Petersburg Times is important.

It shows that

• the Scientologists failed to call 911 (Schiavo didn't call until Terri's brother insisted )
• and that they had been charged with abusing a disabled adult

Scientology leader wanted a deal, By THOMAS C. TOBIN © St. Petersburg Times, published June 14, 2000

It explains that David Miscavige, the head of Scientology worldwide, personally got involved in the handling the Lisa McPherson case.

Miscavige's offer was to give a large donation to the EMS, to pay for expenses for the case, and to pay the fines that would have been imposed if the Church were convicted.

It also says that Scientologists presented a lot of evidence to Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Joan Wood to counter her findings about the dehydration death of Lisa.

Wood became convinced the "Church" was right and decided Lisa's death was accidental.

McCabe dropped the charges, that accused the church of abusing a disabled adult and practicing medicine on McPherson without a license, saying that Wood (the ME) had credibility problems.

[pc93]

Speaking of viruses I wonder which one this writer at the St. Petersburg times has as she doesn't appear to be very informed on Terri's case yet she is spouting off that Terri should die and that Jeb shouldn't have written a letter, etc. Here contact info is at the end of the article -> - Mary Jo Melone at mjmelone@sptimes.com or 813 226-3402.

See:

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/08/28/Columns/Governor_as_guardian_.shtml

What would Terri say? She would probably say study up
on your facts!

[syriacus]

Lisa McPherson	Terri Schiavo
Scientologists failed to call 911	Schiavo delayed calling 911
Lisa had lost a lot of weight	Terri had lost a lost of weight
Lisa was planning on leaving Scientology	Terri was planning on leaving Mike
Scientolgists keep insisting on cremation	Schiavo keeps insisting on cremation
Scientologists take Lisa from hospital saying she doesn't believe in psychiatry	Schiavo doesn't give Terri rehabilitation saying she would want to die

This web page discusses why the charges were dropped in the McPherson case.

Date: 6/9/2000 Re: Review of Evidence in State v. Church of Scientology Flag Service Organization, Inc.

[phenn]

Kimmie,

I do so hate to be outdone. So here is your morning larf.

http://www.geocities.com/phenn/cheaties.jpg

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

Again...this Scientology stuff keeps on coming up during my searches. What is the connection? Is there one?

Scientology leader wanted a deal

By THOMAS C. TOBIN

© St. Petersburg Times, published June 14, 2000

CLEARWATER -- Alarmed at the "massive impact" of two criminal charges, the Church of Scientology's worldwide leader quickly offered Pinellas County's top prosecutor a deal.

Drop the charges, David Miscavige told State Attorney Bernie McCabe in November 1998, and the church would make a $500,000 donation to the county's EMS system.

It also would pay the nearly $200,000 in expenses incurred in what then was a three-year investigation into Lisa McPherson's 1995 death while in the care of her fellow Scientologists.

In addition, Miscavige offered to pay the $15,000 the church would have been fined if convicted of the charges.

He also promised steps to ensure a death like McPherson's never occurred again. The church would submit to temporary monitoring under a "pretrial intervention program." It would have a doctor on call 24 hours a day at Scientology's Clearwater operation. And it would establish a protocol with local hospitals that detailed how Scientologists with mental problems should be cared for in light of Scientology's vigorous opposition to psychiatry.

Miscavige disclosed the deal in a wide-ranging interview Tuesday, a day after McCabe dropped felony charges that accused the church of abusing a disabled adult and practicing medicine on McPherson without a license. The prosecutor cited serious credibility problems with the testimony of Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Joan Wood.

Shortly after Miscavige made the offer in 1998, McCabe turned it down and made no counter proposal.

"That conversation didn't last very long," the prosecutor said Tuesday. "I didn't think (the offer) spoke appropriately to the conduct we had charged."

Also Tuesday, Scientology's 40-year-old leader told the Times he wants his church to move beyond the case, in part by opening its doors and reaching out to explain itself better to the public. Had the church done a better job of that before, he said, McPherson's death might not have been investigated so aggressively.

That the church was charged with two crimes had been Scientology's No. 1 problem worldwide, in a league with its 40-year battle with the IRS.

"It was something I knew immediately was going to have a massive impact on the religion," Miscavige said.

The deal, he said, was part of a delicate effort to keep the prosecution a low-key affair conducted while he worked on another long-time goal -- improving the church's traditionally rocky relations with community leaders in Clearwater.

"If you want to be friends with somebody and you don't want to be their enemy, litigation is not the approach to accomplish that," Miscavige said.

The offer to McCabe was meant to address the prosecutor's chief concerns about McPherson's treatment while in the care of staffers at Scientology's Fort Harrison Hotel, Miscavige said.

For example, the donation to EMS attempted to ease concerns that none of the staffers thought to call 911 during McPherson's 17-day stay, instead driving her in a van to a hospital 45 minutes away.

The donation was neither a "buyout" nor a symbolic gesture but a tangible expression of Scientology's support for EMS service, Miscavige said.

The proposed deal came after Miscavige resolved the church would never plead guilty or no contest to the two charges.

"My concern was the stigmatizing of an entire religion and all its members," he said. "I said, "Well, there's absolutely no way, no way would it be acceptable for me to have a church with a criminal record. None. None.' "

On Monday, when McCabe dropped the charges, the church walked away bruised but legally exonerated. The prosecutor said he had "no regrets" about turning down Miscavige early on.

"It would have saved a lot of heartache," McCabe said of the proposed deal, "but I still think (turning it down) was the right thing to do."

Despite the prosecutor's reaction, the church implemented two elements of the deal anyway -- the on-call doctor and the hospital protocols, Miscavige said.

The offer came on the second of what would be as many as 10 meetings with prosecutors as Miscavige seized the initiative and threw himself into matters that normally might be left to subordinates.

Miscavige has taken similar steps before, most notably in 1991, when he showed up in person and uninvited at IRS headquarters in Washington, D.C., asking for a meeting with the agency's commissioner. He eventually got several meetings and a two-year review that led to Scientology's tax-exempt status in 1993, a feat that squadrons of church lawyers had been unable to accomplish before.

Miscavige had assumed the reins of Scientology in 1986 at age 26, operating out of the church's administrative headquarters in Los Angeles. Twelve years later, at Scientology's spiritual hub in Clearwater, the church was charged with a crime for the first time since its founding in 1954.

After the deal fell through with McCabe, Miscavige said the church's lawyers wanted to forge ahead with an aggressive defense. But he disagreed with them and began looking for other ways to settle the case without a trial or a plea, and without any "explosions."

He said he sought experts to tell him whether McPherson was as dehydrated as prosecutors and Wood had said she was. He also wanted to know whether she had lost more than 40 pounds, another charge made by prosecutors.

Miscavige said many consultants hired by the church told him the state's allegations were false. Last fall, as church lawyers tried to get the case dismissed on constitutional grounds, Miscavige said he prepared for another attempt at a quiet resolution.

The church asked Wood to reconsider her conclusion that McPherson death was "undetermined" and that she died of a blood clot caused by "bed rest and severe dehydration." Miscavige oversaw the assembly of thousands of pages of medical studies, consultant reports and other documents that were given to Wood.

In February, after reviewing those documents, Wood changed her conclusions, calling McPherson's death an accident and deleting the references to "bed rest and severe dehydration" on the death certificate.

Miscavige said Tuesday the church exerted no pressure on the veteran medical examiner. That claim is supported in a June 1 sworn statement in which Wood said she felt as much pressure from prosecutors as she did from the church. She also said the church's opinions on the case "had absolutely nothing to do with my decision to change (the death certificate). I changed it based on my scientific and medical and ethical opinions."

The change led to a review of the case by McCabe's office and eventually to dropping the case.
http://sptimes.com/News/061400/TampaBay/Scientology_leader_wa.shtml

[syriacus]

Wed, Sep. 03, 2003 Reed Slatkin Gets 14 Years for Scam

LOS ANGELES - A judge sentenced investment manager Reed Slatkin to 14 years in federal prison for running a nearly $600 million Ponzi scheme that bilked hundreds of investors. [snip]

Slatkin paid some investors returns that were largely made up of funds raised from other investors, prosecutors said.

His clients included actor Joe Pantoliano, model Cheryl Tiegs and television personality Greta Van Susteren. His more notable clients were among the few who were repaid more than they invested.

Slatkin's attorneys claimed he was influenced by the Church of Scientology, from which he has been ousted. His attorneys said investors who were paid donated between $25 million and $50 million to the church, an arrangement Slatkin was afraid to end.

David Schindler, an attorney for the Church of Scientology, was present for the sentencing. He said later the comments were outrageous.

[syriacus]

David Schindler, an attorney for the Church of Scientology, was present for the sentencing. He said later the comments were outrageous.

Are the David Schindler who was a US Attorney and the David Schindler who is an attorney for Scientology the same David Schindler?

LOS ANGELES (Sep 27, 1996) Mitnick Faces 25 More Federal Counts of Computer Hacking

The 25-count federal indictment against Kevin Mitnick is the biggest development in the sensational case since the self-taught computer whiz was arrested in February 1995 in North Carolina.

[snip] With Thursday's indictment, federal prosecutors made good on their vow to hold Mitnick accountable for what they say was a string of hacking crimes that pushed him to the top of the FBI's most-wanted list.

"These are incredibly substantial charges. They involve conducts spanning two and a half years. They involve a systematic scheme to steal proprietary software from a range of victims," Assistant U.S. Attorney David Schindler said in an interview.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

http://www.whyaretheydead.net/others/ars1032.htm

Terri's husband wasn't involved with Scientology back when Terri was injured, was he?

[syriacus]

Are the David Schindler who was a US Attorney and the David Schindler who is an attorney for Scientology the same David Schindler?

David Schindler who's an attorney for Scientology:

David Schindler, an attorney for the Church of Scientology, was present for the sentencing. [Schindler] said later the comments were outrageous.

Source: Reed Slatkin Gets 14 Years for Scam [Findlaw article]

David Schindler who's an attorney for the United States:

But prosecutor David Schindler dismissed Randolph's claims as "silly and preposterous."

Source: Mitnick Fights Back Hacker claims the government crossed the line to build its case against him

[syriacus]

Terri's husband wasn't involved with Scientology back when Terri was injured, was he?

I've been asking myself the same question...

• Did he/they belong to Scientology and did
• He/they actually join back when they lived in the Philadelphia area?

That's what I am trying to find out.

Who encouraged the two families to move to Florida?

[Theodore R.]

I just sent the following email to Miss Melone of the St. Petersburg Times:

Miss Melone: I strongly dispute your claim that Terri should be starved to death. You are supporting euthanasia: have you even seen this young woman? She is not in a coma, she breathes on her own, she needs a small tube for her feeding. Her parents want to take her home. Why are you so hard-hearted? I thought that liberals were known for their "compassion." Where is your compassion, Miss Melone.

[Theodore R.]

Ironically, so many people from PA have moved to FL that FL surpassed PA as the fourth largest state in population in the early 1990s. Now PA is in fifth place, a likely long-term ranking by population.

[pc93]

No.. you guys need to start some other thread with the Scientology stuff as it's not too relevant.

[Theodore R.]

Crist ran against Bob Graham (was it 1992?) when no one else would take him on. I wonder why he is unresponsive to Terri's plight. He is supposed to be a reliable conservative.

[pc93]

Re: Crist.. well lets call him and find out:

Charlie Crist (ag@oag.state.fl.us).
Office of Attorney General Charlie Crist
State of Florida
The Capitol PL-01
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
Main office telephone numbers
Voice: 850-414-3990
Fax: (850)487-2564

[syriacus]

http://www.whyaretheydead.net/others/ars1032.htm
Terri's husband wasn't involved with Scientology back when Terri was injured, was he?

I wonder. That's why I put the Why are they dead link on this thread yeasterday.

The account of the death of Carrie Slaughterbeck, 23, reminds me a little of Terri.

She was found dead on the floor in her home by her boyfriend, I think, when he arrived home in a cab after being out of town. (I'm getting all the cases mixed up)

She was "on a diet," too. Actually her boyfriend was, too. I only quickly read some of the police accounts, but my impression is that there are some similarities in the lifestyles of Terri and Carrie.

[syriacus]

No.. you guys need to start some other thread with the Scientology stuff as it's not too relevant.

Will do.

[syriacus]

dixiegrrl wrote:
Mary Jean Etten Proffessor of Nursing @ St Petersberg Junior College and a hospice board member. Look on post #727 and 734 for more info.

 floriduh voter wrote:
Do we know where Michael Schiavo got his nursing & respiratory training? Did he know the head of the nursing Dept. of St. Pete College who happened to be on Hospice's Board?

agrace wrote:
And during my travels I found that the St Petersburg College and St Petersburg Junior College are one and the same.

Is this your recollection of when SPJC became a full fledged college? Around 2001?

---

Did we at the Oakton Institute cause a junior college to become a university?

Did we at the Oakton Institute cause a junior college to become a university? In by-gone days we at the Oakton Institute for Cultic Studies have been openly critical of the US government's decision to host the Multijurisdictional Counterdrug Task Force Training program, a federal program to train national and international law enforcement and military personnel in drug interdiction, at a mere junior college--Saint Petersburg Junior College.

There is good reason to believe that the decision had been influenced because of MCTFT's ties to America's First Family of the War on Drugs, Mel and Betty Sembler, who live in Saint Petersburg. But we can't criticize that decision anymore because SPJC isn't a junior anymore.

It all officially started in 2001 when Florida state Senator Donald C. Sullivan  (formerly secretary of Straight Foundation) proposed a bill to make Saint Petersburg Junior College a full-fledged university.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

No clue.

http://www.evelynmartens.ca/en-newsday-030413.html