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Geoghan's Death Could Void Conviction
The Boston Channel ^ | August 27, 2003

Posted on 08/27/2003 3:48:44 PM PDT by NYer

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Exonerated!? What next ... innocent?
1 posted on 08/27/2003 3:48:44 PM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Just breaking on CBS News. Geoghan's conviction has been voided.
2 posted on 08/27/2003 3:50:44 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
Who cares if his conviction was voided. He got his come-uppins.
3 posted on 08/27/2003 3:53:11 PM PDT by sydney smith
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What difference does it make? The state law is stupid, but only a retard would now argue that his murder somehow exonerates him.
4 posted on 08/27/2003 3:54:04 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Exactly. What should we do, try him again (just prop up the body in the defendant's chair)?
5 posted on 08/27/2003 4:12:55 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: NYer
In 1988, Druce was convicted of killing 5-year-old George Rollo.

Looked it up. Rollo was 51, not 5.

REALLY stupid mistake.

6 posted on 08/27/2003 4:15:31 PM PDT by Restorer (Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
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To: NYer
Just out of curiosity -- is there any information out there about why Joseph Druce might hate homosexuals badly enough to kill them?

Do we know if he was abused as a child, or a homosexual himself, or whatever?

It seems like an obvious question, about which the media are suspiciously silent.

7 posted on 08/27/2003 4:19:02 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Here's a partial answer to my question.

Apparently he had psychological issues from the age of 5 on. His previous murder was committed after his victim, Rollo, touched Druce's groin -- as Rollo was supposedly gay, I guess one would presume that he meant it as a sexual sort of thing, to which Druce took murderous exception.

One wonders if he was abused at age 5, or if he's just a standard-issue whackjob.

8 posted on 08/27/2003 4:24:13 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: mountaineer
Dig up his bones, put 'em on trial, hang 'em! (/sarcasm)
9 posted on 08/27/2003 4:48:34 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: mountaineer
Exactly. What should we do, try him again (just prop up the body in the defendant's chair)?
 
It has been done before.

10 posted on 08/27/2003 4:56:00 PM PDT by Radix
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To: NYer
That's ok, he's standing in front of the Supreme Judge now.
11 posted on 08/27/2003 4:59:18 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: NYer
What, a murderer dies in his sleep and you still execute him?
13 posted on 08/27/2003 6:08:56 PM PDT by RobbyS
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Mark Shea's take on this whole Geoghan deal. I agree with it.

"It reinforces the notion that these guys always win," he said. "I worry that will make it harder for some victims report their abuse."

Those are the words of David Clohessy of SNAP regarding the death--the death--of John Geoghan. Apparently, because of some stupid technicality, Geoghan's conviction could be voided because he can't present for his appeal. The man was strangled and stomped to death in prison and Clohessy sees Geoghan as the "winner". Exhibit A in the "why unforgiveness is an eternal prison" display. Geoghan is a "winner" only in Clohessy's mind. But the mind can be a very effective prison until the bars are shattered by forgivenness and the abandonment of the demand for the Victimizer to be punished by unforgiveness. Geoghan will, paradoxically, continue to have power over every victim who imitates Clohessy's mindset. Poor souls.

Like I say, Christ's teachings on sex aren't the big scandal for most people. It's his teaching on mercy and forgiveness that really outrages us.

Shea's blogspot.

14 posted on 08/27/2003 6:18:06 PM PDT by sinkspur (How about rescuing a Bichon Frise? He'll love you forever!!!!)
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Mark Shea has a bleeding heart. For the wrong people. Geoghan got exactly what he deserved. Christ does not need us to forgive this scumbag, that's solely His privelege.
15 posted on 08/27/2003 6:45:44 PM PDT by sydney smith
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Christ does not need us to forgive this scumbag, that's solely His privelege.

I'm afraid Christ said differently. "Forgive your enemies, not seven times, but seventy times seven."

16 posted on 08/27/2003 6:48:08 PM PDT by sinkspur (How about rescuing a Bichon Frise? He'll love you forever!!!!)
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To: NYer
In 1988, Druce was convicted of killing 5-year

I pray that Druce dies the same vicious way he killed Father Goeghan. I also pray that the so-called guards get it back for allowing Druce the Devil to savage that old man that way.

17 posted on 08/27/2003 7:15:33 PM PDT by Tiger_eye
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To: sinkspur
Geoghan will, paradoxically, continue to have power over every victim who imitates Clohessy's mindset. Poor souls.

Ought we not say, Satan contiunes to have power? Geoghan was only his dupe.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 7:30:56 PM PDT by RobbyS
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Christ does not need us to forgive this scumbag, that's solely His privelege.

I'm afraid Christ said differently. "Forgive your enemies, not seven times, but seventy times seven."

If they repent. The passage specifically ties repentence by a wrongdoer as a condition of beng forgiven, even up the the 70 x 7 times.

19 posted on 08/27/2003 8:03:58 PM PDT by absinthe
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To: Blue Atlas Cedar
Is there a way to make a blue atlas cedar grow faster?

I planted one about 10 years ago and it hasn't grown very much.

20 posted on 08/27/2003 8:52:14 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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