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1 posted on 08/27/2003 11:33:41 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Light Speed; Thinkin' Gal; Sir Gawain
The Watchers

Enoch
Chapter 9

1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being 2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryingst up to the gates of heaven. 3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause 4 before the Most High."'

http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/ot/pseudo/enoch.htm

Aldebaran

History of the star: A pale rose star marking the left eye of the Bull, Taurus.

Arabic Al Dabaran meaning "Follower", i.e. of the Pleiades, because it marked the 2d manzil or second mansion of the Moon, that followed the first, the Pleiades.

Aldebaran is the Greek Omma Boos, Latin Oculus Tauri, and the early English Bull's Eye; [Bull's-eye is what we call "the centre of a target, which usually carries the highest score", and "a precise or highly effective achievement"].

The great "red giant", war-like Aldebaran is one of the four "Guardians of Heaven" - sentinels watching over other stars. It formed one of the four royal stars of Persia as "Watcher of the East".

These were also called archangel stars;  this star Aldebaran was Michael  - Military Commander of the Heavenly Host. The others were; Gabriel (Fomalhaut) Watcher of the South; Raphael (Regulus) Watcher of the North; Oriel (Antares) Watcher of the West. At one time they marked the two Equinoxes and two Solstices. Aldebaran marked the zero Aries point in 3044 BC, Antares marked zero Libra 3052 BC, Fomalhaut marked zero Capricorn, 2582 BC, Regulus marked zero Cancer 2345 BC. These four stars have been characterized as Horses, reflected both in the famed Four Horsemen of Apocalypse (Revelations 6) and Chariot Horses in the Book of Zechariah - (Morse)

http://www.winshop.com.au/annew/Aldebaran.html

Psalm 104

1   Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
2   Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
3   Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:
4   Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
5   Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

Who strechest out the heavens like a curtain...

These Watchers are Elohim's Tzitzith.

Daniel 4

9   O Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in thee, and no secret troubleth thee, tell me the visions of my dream that I have seen, and the interpretation thereof.

10   Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.
11   The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth:

12   The leaves thereof were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all: the beasts of the field had shadow under it, and the fowls of the heaven dwelt in the boughs thereof, and all flesh was fed of it.
13   I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven;

14   He cried aloud, and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches:
15   Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth:

16   Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him.
17   This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

18   This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen.

Nebuchadnezzar had knowledge of the 'Watchers'...

Watcher, Holy One: see Daniel 10:20,21
The dream (Dan. 4) was also directed at the prince of Persia. He was cut down, but he's back. Rev. 17:8

...and it goes on and on and on...

118 posted on 09/01/2003 10:38:10 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (613)
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I didn't find anything pertinent to the topic, but did you see the September/October Biblical Archaeology Review?

There's an article by an Egyptologist named, Manfred Bietak, describing a four-room house built near the temple of Rameses III about the middle of the 12th century BC. Four-room houses are characteristic of early Israelite settlements!!

Big news!!!

132 posted on 09/06/2003 11:50:08 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Alamo-Girl
1. The Jewish calendar is 360 days/year whereas the Enochian calendar calls for 364

This provides a clue. All the ancient calanders that I am aware of, (14 in all), used a 360 day year prior to the 8th century BCE. After which all were changed. If as some expect, that there was a fundemental change in the earths orbit, (a near pass by of mars, or some other major event), then the apaocraphal enoch would be post 8th century, therefore post flood and post enoch.
137 posted on 09/06/2003 1:43:02 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: Alamo-Girl
Interesting topic. Do you plan any updates on your further searching?
155 posted on 09/16/2003 9:32:10 AM PDT by Some hope remaining.
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read later
157 posted on 05/11/2004 3:16:37 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Alamo-Girl

So how is it going?


166 posted on 04/14/2008 1:33:49 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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Click here
187 posted on 04/15/2008 3:40:25 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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bump for later reading


193 posted on 04/15/2008 10:41:30 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Alamo-Girl

ok.
on what i have read,you are missing one key element to your top 20 and the fact that the mayans calender isnt the end of the world but there given date for the return of what was the ruling beings.
the mayans were slaves(as was the rest of the world) to whoever it was that ruled all those years ago and some may have learnt about the stars from the beings that travelled them.
as a so called educated race we certainly do seem to miss the simplicity of actually understanding what happened all those years ago.
their are too many logical answers to rule out a far superior race than our own.we picked up(and lost)most of what was taught in those early years and anyone can write a book and leave it for someone to find at a later date,the world is full of books with stories,some are believed some arent.
anyway the logic is simple a far superior race to us is set to reappear in 2012 and take from us what it wants and that is what the mayans calender is all about.so please put this at the top of your theory list as all the others are only probables.
steve


229 posted on 11/19/2009 5:42:54 AM PST by steves logic
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