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To: MineralMan
Just a FYI, one need not believe in any diety nor anything supernatural to have a sincere faith in God. It's the people who are trying to portray God as some sort of supernatural spirit who are in error.

God exists by definition. (Roughly, God is the universe and all the laws and interactions with which it operates. Entropy, for example, is a property of God, as is gravity, inertia, etc.). It doesn't matter what anyone believes, God is here, there, and everywhere. Nothing anyone can do can change this.

Just to let you know that there are people who believe in God and actually understand what they are talking about. I often find that the people who resort to religious arguments in non-religious context are the ones who least understand what monotheism is all about.
231 posted on 08/27/2003 11:27:07 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Welcome to the Iraq Roach Motel - Islamofascists check in, but they don't check out!)
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To: thoughtomator
"God exists by definition. (Roughly, God is the universe and all the laws and interactions with which it operates. Entropy, for example, is a property of God, as is gravity, inertia, etc.). It doesn't matter what anyone believes, God is here, there, and everywhere. Nothing anyone can do can change this. "

OK. That's not my belief, but you're welcome to it. It's probably the oldest of the religions, though. I do disagree with your first sentence, however. Definitions do not prove existence.
246 posted on 08/27/2003 11:35:01 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: thoughtomator
God exists by definition. (Roughly, God is the universe and all the laws and interactions with which it operates. Entropy, for example, is a property of God, as is gravity, inertia, etc.). It doesn't matter what anyone believes, God is here, there, and everywhere.

A little more poetically..

God is the Iz-ness of the Is,
The One-ness of our Cosmic Biz;
The high, the low, the near, the far,
The atom and the evening star;
The lark, the shark, the cloud, the clod,
The whole darned Universe--that's God.
-- Robert Service

541 posted on 08/27/2003 9:22:50 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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