To: RoughDobermann
Some teachers have taken Bibles from students and put them in the wastebasket. Examples please?
Here's an example for you....this happened a couple years ago in a local elementary school--fifth grade. Teacher told students they could bring a book from home to read during their free time. A girl chose to bring her Bible. [I know this family, and this girl did this totally on her own--no prodding from parents.] Then the first (appropriate) time she brought it out to read, the teacher took it away from her, delivered it to the office, and the office called her mother to advise that the book could be picked up in the school office at the end of the day. The mom notified the dad of what happened. He immediately went to the school to discuss this with the principal who would not back down on their decision to disallow the Bible in class, so the father immediately removed his three children from that school and enrolled them the same afternoon in a private school just a mile down the road.
To: Mean Maryjean
"Some teachers have taken Bibles from students and put them in the wastebasket."
OK, so this Implies it was more than one.
Then you go on to state:
"Then the first (appropriate) time she brought it out to read, the teacher took it away from her, delivered it to the office, and the office called her mother to advise that the book could be picked up in the school office at the end of the day."
Where's the Trashcan? Where's the parade of Teachers filling the Trashcans with Bibles?
To: Mean Maryjean
I know this family, and this girl did this totally on her own--no prodding from parents.Interesting. So, this girl found religion all by herself, or did her parents have something to do with it originally?
195 posted on
08/27/2003 11:05:04 AM PDT by
RoughDobermann
(Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
To: Mean Maryjean
"He immediately went to the school to discuss this with the principal who would not back down on their decision to disallow the Bible in class, so the father immediately removed his three children from that school and enrolled them the same afternoon in a private school just a mile down the road."
He should have contacted an attorney. He'd have very quickly won the case. Schools may not confiscate religious items from children, as long as they're for personal use. That's been confirmed again and again. Too bad the dad just wimped out.
196 posted on
08/27/2003 11:05:46 AM PDT by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: Mean Maryjean
Here's an example for you....this happened a couple years ago in a local elementary school--fifth grade. Teacher told students they could bring a book from home to read during their free time. A girl chose to bring her Bible. [I know this family, and this girl did this totally on her own--no prodding from parents.] Then the first (appropriate) time she brought it out to read, the teacher took it away from her, delivered it to the office, and the office called her mother to advise that the book could be picked up in the school office at the end of the day. The mom notified the dad of what happened. He immediately went to the school to discuss this with the principal who would not back down on their decision to disallow the Bible in class, so the father immediately removed his three children from that school and enrolled them the same afternoon in a private school just a mile down the road.In this caase, the school and the faculty/administration were obviously wrong. But, the dad should have fought instead of caving...
203 posted on
08/27/2003 11:09:20 AM PDT by
RoughDobermann
(Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
To: Mean Maryjean
"Here's an example for you....this happened a couple years ago in a local elementary school--fifth grade. Teacher told students they could bring a book from home to read during their free time. A girl chose to bring her Bible. [I know this family, and this girl did this totally on her own--no prodding from parents.] Then the first (appropriate) time she brought it out to read, the teacher took it away from her, delivered it to the office, and the office called her mother to advise that the book could be picked up in the school office at the end of the day. The mom notified the dad of what happened. He immediately went to the school to discuss this with the principal who would not back down on their decision to disallow the Bible in class, so the father immediately removed his three children from that school and enrolled them the same afternoon in a private school just a mile down the road."
This is certainly not evidence of a conspiracy to take away Bibles. There are always misguided, wrong-headed dolts out there. When this sort of thing happens it's almost always because somebody's afraid they're going to get sued, not because they have anything against the Bible or religion.
If the father had bothered to fight this he would have won quickly. In this case, the ACLU would have been on his side. In my state, the attorney general's office would have straightened out the school system immediately.
319 posted on
08/27/2003 12:28:11 PM PDT by
kegler4
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