Movers Haul Away Ten Commandments in Montgomery

FOXNews.com ^ | Wednesday, August 27, 2003

[NWO Slave]

MONTGOMERY, Ala. — A chorus of demonstrators joined an irate man in screaming "Put it back!" Wednesday morning after a monument of the Ten Commandments was wheeled away from the rotunda of the Alabama Judicial Building.

"Get your hands off our God, God haters!" yelled the wildly gesturing, red-faced man who initiated the chanting.

Workers used a dolly to move the 5,280-pound granite marker from the rotunda to another, undisclosed place in the courthouse building.

Meanwhile, a Wednesday afternoon hearing to consider a lawsuit to keep the monument in the rotunda was canceled.

The lawsuit, filed Monday in federal court in Mobile on behalf of a Christian radio talk show host and a pastor, says forced removal of the monument would violate the constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion.

Christian Defense Coalition Director Patrick Mahoney told the crowd of demonstrators that he wasn't told where the monument had been taken.

Because of its size and weight, the marker was presumably moved to another location on the ground floor of the building.

Mahoney said the monument would not be covered, and that he would be allowed inside to see it once it was moved. Mahoney said he was informed of the plans by building manager Graham George.

Mahoney didn't know whether the monument's new location would be accessible to the public.

The federal court had said the monument could be in a private place in the building but not in the highly visible spot in the rotunda directly across from the building's entrance.

Protest organizers asked the crowd outside not to rush the building or do anything else except pray. Some people seemed to be listening, with dozens kneeling, bowing or lying face-down in prayer in front of the judicial building and on the steps before and after the monument's removal.

The marker was wheeled away in a matter of minutes.

A federal judge in Montgomery ruled last year that the monument, which Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore (search) installed two years ago, violates the Constitution's ban on government promotion of religion and ordered its removal by Aug. 20. The U.S. Supreme Court last week declined to hear Moore's appeal.

But Moore refused to comply. Eight associate justices voted Aug. 21 to remove the monument, and Moore was suspended the next day.

Attorney General Bill Pryor, defending the associate justices, filed a motion Tuesday afternoon to dismiss the latest lawsuit, saying the Mobile court lacks jurisdiction and the complaint lacks merit.

About 150 monument supporters marched on Pryor's office Tuesday, demanding he resign for supporting the associate justices' decision. Seven representatives were allowed inside to meet with Pryor's chief deputy for about 20 minutes. The rest remained outside, chanting, "Resign now! Resign now!"

Gatherings of pro-monument demonstrators outside the judicial building have grown each day in the past week to at times number in the hundreds.

People seeking removal of the monument from its public site had said they were grateful that it was finally being moved, a week after the deadline set by a federal judge.

"This is a tremendous victory for the rule of law and respect for religious diversity," the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said before the monument was rolled out of the rotunda. "Perhaps Roy Moore will soon leave the bench and move into the pulpit, which he seems better suited for."

Lynne's organization was among groups suing to remove Moore's monument, which he installed without telling the other eight Supreme Court justices.

Demonstrators promised to keep up their protests of the removal.

"If it takes 75 years to reclaim this land for righteousness, God find us and our children and our children's children ready," said the Rev. Rob Schenck, president of the national clergy council.

Affirmative Action Judge Opposing Judge Roy Moore

[MineralMan]

"Would it be offensive to you if I said that I would certainly keep your mother ( as well as yourself ) in my prayers? I hope not."

Heck, no. All good thoughts and wishes are appreciated, whatever you call them.

[MarthaNOStewart]

THE RULE OF LAW is a new term that has no real meaning, it was started to circumvent the Constitution and use new laws to establish WHATEVER they wanted to establish, see quote below:

"But overlooked in much of the dialogue about the rule of law is that the term has no fixed meaning. It originated in normative writings on law and government, principally by Western authors, and each tailored the term to fit his or her vision of the "ideal" or "just" state. As a consequence, one recent survey of how the term has been used in Germany, France, the United Kingdom, and the United States concludes that it "belongs to the category of open-ended concepts which are subject to permanent debate" (Grote 1999: 271).

Most people have no clue that this term was created "to justify" whatever the ACLU or other Liberal groups want it to justify!

[f.Christian]

Still " birth defects " ... you profess " I dunno " --- rote Quack militant politics !

Stupidity surplus --- understanding deficit --- hyper active is ...

the formula of social engineering - hypocrisy ---

mad - loon science --- anarchy !

Doctors have to take an oath ... " to do no harm " ---

maybe you should study pathology before you operate on me - society !

[nfldgirl]

That being said, I WILL intervene if they decide to become Democrats! ;-)Well, ON THAT, we can certainly agree!!!!! -- Dittos for me too!

[f.Christian]

lb ...

Wow, Is somebody forgetting to take their Meds again....?


396 posted on 08/27/2003 2:00 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar


fC ...

is that how you function w / o thinking ... meds ?

[MineralMan]

"maybe you should study pathology before you operate on me "

Oh, trust me, I would never operate on you. I wouldn't even touch you.

[f.Christian]

Are you an authority on something ?

[f.Christian]

mm ...

Now, if you asked me about the origins of life itself, rather than evolution, I'd have to shrug my shoulders and say, "I dunno." Same with the origin of the Universe. But those questions really aren't ones I feel worth spending a lot of time on, since I don't believe they can ever be answered completely.


398 posted on 08/27/2003 2:01 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)


fC ...

Really pathetic --- BLIND !

[jimt]

Here's what the Bible says about unbelievers, who "hear" the word of God (or in some cases, by reading the Bible, they try to gain some understanding but to no avail...):

Do you know what the word "smug" means?

[RoughDobermann]

So, you can write in coherent sentences. What's with the penchant for the cryptic style?

[f.Christian]

When I got on the Elian debate I broke up my sentences into parts - phrases ...

I was accused of writing bad poetry ---

dropped commas and semicolons just to try to get people to re - think what their bias predisposition was !

I have my friends and enemies ... no shortage of critics too --- par for the course - it goes with the territory - style !

Now it all seems like a bad habit for me to break !

[WVNan]

I believe in a mother's love for her child.

That's nice. God is love.

I believe that we have a very short time on this amazing planet, so each day is worth a lot.

The heavens declare His righteousness, and all the peoples see His glory.

I believe that the Constitution of the United States is one of the most important documents ever written.

The American revolutionary epoch was momentous for religion, as currents of life and thought that had been stirred by the Great Awakening merged with other forces to mark a transition to freedom of belief.

I believe in love at first sight.

God is love.

I believe in being faithful to the ones you love.

Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

I believe in giving a fellow the benefit of the doubt

"Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me."

This is my only word on this debate. All who wish for Christianity removed from public life will probably get their wish. However, when it comes to pass, they will not like what they have wrought. Remember that.

[sweetliberty]

"This is a tremendous victory for the rule of law and respect for religious diversity"

Wrong, you godless pr*ck! It is a tremendous defeat of the Constitution and a total lack of respect for the will of the people of Alabama and the God they worship upon whom all law is founded!

[RoughDobermann]

Well, it's certainly a very interesting writing style...

[RoughDobermann]

Wrong, you godless pr*ck!

I take it you're not a recruiter?

[sweetliberty]

"My God isn't a piece of stone with words on it."

Can't argue with that. I think the ones who were saying that need to get a little better grip on what this is really about.

[sweetliberty]

"I take it you're not a recruiter?"

Huh?

[sweetliberty]

"The press makes sure to mention the one person who loses it at this rally and all the critics can do is comment on him. No wonder the Press is winning...fools fall for the ploys..."

You make an excellent point. Thanks for the perspective.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

.."get your hands off our God, God haters!" yelled the wildly gesturing, red-faced man who initiated the chanting...

...what a classic piece of biased reporting. And won't the Moore-haters here lap it up?

As I've said a zillion times, we Aussies know Murdoch. Put not your trust in that quintessential opportunist, my Freeper friends. He will sell conservatives out, the minute there's a buck in it.

[f.Christian]

The contitutional wall the founders were building was to protect state and individual rights from a national govt - religion that has been breeched - demolished by liberals !

"The real object of the [First] [A]mendment was not to countenance, much less to advance, Mahometanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity; but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects, and to prevent any ... national ecclesiastical establishment --- which should give to a hierarchy the exclusive patronage of the national government. It thus cut off the means of religious persecution (the vice and pest of former ages), and of the subversion of the rights of conscience in matters of religion, which had been trampled upon almost from the days of the Apostles to the present age. . . ." (Footnotes omitted.)

Check out the link above !