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An Alternate Road Map
The Conning Tower ^ | Aug. 25, 2003 | Trentino

Posted on 08/26/2003 3:08:27 PM PDT by Davis

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1 posted on 08/26/2003 3:08:28 PM PDT by Davis
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2 posted on 08/26/2003 3:10:55 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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I would propose to nuke the house of an author of this stupid text. Of course for purely defensive reasons.
3 posted on 08/26/2003 3:22:53 PM PDT by JackTom
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To: Davis; SAMWolf; PhilDragoo
Good article, thanks for posting it.

Ping you guys.
4 posted on 08/26/2003 3:34:17 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops)
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To: Davis
No Peace without Victory. One side has to totally defeat the other and then dictate Peace terms. As far as the terrorists are concerned, only a dead one is worth anything, and even then not a whole lot..
5 posted on 08/26/2003 3:38:10 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Oregon - Where the Legislature keeps writing checks the taxpayers can't cover.)
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To: Davis
I find that kind of talk ugly and irresponsible.

Where does this "Trentino" guy live? Surely not in Israel.

The Sharon government and the IDF are stepping up the pace, killing Hamas (at least I hope we'll see much more of it in the coming weeks).

If and when the Iranians get close to assembling a nuclear weapons, the Israeli air force will strike and destroy the facilities.

What Trentino is advocating is crazy.
6 posted on 08/26/2003 3:42:09 PM PDT by tictoc
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re: "their targets: Riyadh, Damascus, and Teheran"

You forgot Mecca and Medina!

During the Haj would be best.

7 posted on 08/26/2003 3:46:17 PM PDT by RonHolzwarth
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To: SAMWolf; Davis; snippy_about_it; dennisw; SJackson; Yehuda; Grampa Dave
Arafat signed Oslo in 1993, vowing to eschew violence and accept the state of Israel, stop teaching hate, that sort of thing.

Clinton sent Carville to defeat Netanyahu, and install Barak who would betray Israel to Arafat--who again pretended to eschew violence and accept the state of Israel, stop teaching hate, that sort of thing.

Arafat launched his intifada, translated as open season on Israeli Jews.

The clouds parted and the Road Map descended upon a beam of light into the open hands of Condoleezza Rice:

It was simplicity itself:

Arafat had only to eschew violence and accept the state of Israel, stop teaching hate, that sort of thing.

Further, the Arafat dopleganger would serve instead of Arafat as head of the PA (Pogroms Are-us).

Terror is exhausting work, so a hudna or "ersatz truce" was declared in June, followed by 300 terror attacks which were allowed under Reuters Rules of Engagement.

Then the big bus explosion followed by the mean-spirited Israeli response which torpedoed the cease-fire!.

Now comes the modest proposal of Trentino to detonate explosive devices in other capitals besides Jerusalem killing innocents other than Jews (IOTJ).

Is it satire?

Does it not question the very foundation of New York Times reality?

That all Palestinian attacks are good attacks, that all Israeli attacks are bad attacks?

Will Sharon ask for directions again from the helpful National Security Advisor for the United States Condoleezza Rice?

Or will he rather crumple the road map into a ball, jam it into the glove box of the IDF armored personnel carrier, and plan the next Hamas assassination?

Aha! There he goes in that APC, with its bumper sticker:

HAMAS NO MAS
SPLAT ARAFAT
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8 posted on 08/26/2003 4:29:34 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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The clouds parted and the Road Map descended upon a beam of light into the open hands of Condoleezza Rice:

It was simplicity itself:

Arafat had only to eschew violence and accept the state of Israel, stop teaching hate, that sort of thing. I love your use of the language.

9 posted on 08/26/2003 4:33:39 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Oregon - Where the Legislature keeps writing checks the taxpayers can't cover.)
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The clouds parted and the Road Map descended upon a beam of light into the open hands of Condoleezza Rice:

LOL. ;)

10 posted on 08/26/2003 4:35:08 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops)
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To: PhilDragoo
Yes!
11 posted on 08/26/2003 4:45:14 PM PDT by Davis
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To: PhilDragoo
HAMAS NO MAS
SPLAT ARAFAT.

I love it!

Postscript to what I wrote earlier (not directed at you):

The purpose of having nuclear weapons is deterrence, which means ideally they are never used.

Ideally. But if and when their use is inevitable they can and will be used.

If. And when.

12 posted on 08/26/2003 4:52:24 PM PDT by tictoc
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Yes, as PhilDragoo so eloquently writes, this seems to be a modest proposal. It has great pecekeeeping potential. Kin Jong Il will be paying close attention. The world will be a safer place for 50 or 100 years. After all, the Japanese have been pussycats since August 12, 1945. Those atom bomds, primitive as they were compared to the small, neat ones Israel has these days, were effective and saved probably 200,000 American lives.

There's no point in having nukes if you're too terrified to use them. There are not only for deterrence. They're for winning. And the first war that Israel loses will be her last. So, don't wait, don't hesitate, nuke Riyadh, Damascus, Tehran. You'll be doing the world a favor.
13 posted on 08/26/2003 5:19:11 PM PDT by hrhdave
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re: "their targets: Riyadh, Damascus, and Teheran"

You forgot Mecca and Medina!

During the Haj would be best.

As much as I would like to see those places disappear in a thermonuclear flash, there is a good reason why it should never be done: it would leave Al Aqsa on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem as the number-one surviving muslim holy place.

14 posted on 08/26/2003 5:57:48 PM PDT by Mackey
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This sounds like "you're with us or against us" kind of stuff. Scary, makes sense, but I don't know if the administration is up for it, and I doubt Israel is without at least some moral support.
15 posted on 08/26/2003 6:08:21 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
16 posted on 08/26/2003 6:08:51 PM PDT by SJackson
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it would leave Al Aqsa on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem as the number-one surviving muslim holy place.

Not after the Israelis tear it down to rebuild Solomon's Temple.

17 posted on 08/26/2003 6:32:20 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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it would leave Al Aqsa on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem as the number-one surviving muslim holy place.

The third most important historical site, this place? It's importance is a recent phenom.


18 posted on 08/26/2003 6:37:55 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: tictoc
The purpose of having nuclear weapons is deterrence, which means ideally they are never used.

Ideally. But if and when their use is inevitable they can and will be used.

But, if their use is inevitable, and they are not used, then their purpose(deterrence) is lost....and their holder as well.

19 posted on 08/26/2003 7:53:59 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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But, if their use is inevitable, and they are not used, then their purpose(deterrence) is lost....and their holder as well.

I probably expressed myself badly because I agree 100% with your point. But, to talk about nuking Riyadh, Damascus etc. now, I find that irresponsible and crazy.

There is a lot of killing of terrorists to do before we near that point (I'd like to see 400 Hamas dead by next week, and that's just for starters) and other things to be tried.

20 posted on 08/26/2003 8:02:52 PM PDT by tictoc
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