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Global Warming Smear Targets
The Washington Times ^ | David R. Legates

Posted on 08/25/2003 11:37:07 PM PDT by KMAJ2

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:07:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

While most of official Washington was captivated with the fight on the Senate floor to pass an energy bill before Congress left town for its August vacation, a vicious campaign was under way behind the scenes to smear two leading scientists for pointing out serious flaws in the science behind the theory of human-caused climate change.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climate; climatechange; energybill; environment; globalwarming; ipcc; kyoto; michaelmann; salliebaliunas; scientificevidence; williesoon
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The bove upholds Bush's policies and exposes the global warming fraud being perpetrated by the left in this country. It is simply more evidence that a segment of our left wing socialists, aka radical environmentalists, are using lies and scare tactics about the environment to create exorbitant economic costs on industries of capitalist countries to undermine their future economic viability.
1 posted on 08/25/2003 11:37:07 PM PDT by KMAJ2
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To: KMAJ2
Mars. Titan. Triton. Earth.
All warming up slightly over the past few decades.
When will someone puh-lease connect the dots?
2 posted on 08/25/2003 11:43:48 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: King Prout
A couple of years ago, scientists of the meteriorlogy variety shut down New York City because a snowstorm of Biblical proportion was going to hit them the next day.

It missed by a mile. It cost NYC at least a billion dollars. The weather channel did 24/7 on the storm, and looked silly.

We don't have an accurate predictive weather model. Global warming is based on a long term predictive model, that is based on quicksand. Real scientists know that.

Scientific decisions based on politics are doomed.

DK
3 posted on 08/25/2003 11:51:16 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: KMAJ2
It is simply more evidence that a segment of our left wing socialists, aka radical environmentalists, are using lies and scare tactics about the environment to create exorbitant economic costs

That's not all they are doing.

They are slow boiling the frogs of our foundations as a Judeo/Christian society.

They are usurping our courts and our judges are becoming cosmopolitan pimps for social change and further moving us toward a Eurotrash government abyss.

Constitutional rights and privileges are being invented from bad decisions made decades ago as the frog slowly boils and never understands that he is cooking.

Hell, it is more than just the weather. It's late, maybe I need a break.

4 posted on 08/25/2003 11:52:59 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Nothing in my home is French!)
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To: King Prout
When will someone puh-lease connect the dots?

Better instrumentation?:-)

There has been increased solar activity over the past few years, but that cycle should be over. The sun cycle is finished and the next will build over the next decade, as far as we know. That is about the extent of my solar knowledge.

5 posted on 08/25/2003 11:59:45 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Nothing in my home is French!)
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To: wirestripper; King Prout
I saw a TV program a short while ago where a Scandinavian scientist tied solar activity to climate over the past two or three millenia. There was a very high corelation.

To paraphase a 1992 Democrat slogan, It's the sun, stupid!

6 posted on 08/26/2003 12:15:31 AM PDT by rightofrush (right of Rush, and Buchanan too.)
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To: rightofrush
I check the NOAA site occasionally over the past five or six years.

It has really calmed down as the poles have now reversed. Each cycle takes many years, 7-13 or something like that.

I would not be surprised to see global warming arguments fade. Also, the tree and plant growth should have compensated for any CO2 increases.

Mother takes pretty good care of herself. Not to say that we should not help when we can do so economically without negatively affecting everything we do.

7 posted on 08/26/2003 12:25:10 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Nothing in my home is French!)
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To: wirestripper
As far as I know (not gospel) the 11 and 22 year sunspot cycles have little to nothing to do with increased photo-output, which is the only factor which can explain the simultaneous and similar warming trends on four disparate atmosphere-bearing rocky satellites.
8 posted on 08/26/2003 2:00:13 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: King Prout
When will someone puh-lease connect the dots?

"Solar warming"?

9 posted on 08/26/2003 5:29:59 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: wirestripper
Mother takes pretty good care of herself. Not to say that we should not help when we can do so economically without negatively affecting everything we do.

Seems like the emergency in nature isn't nearly as strong as the artificial emergency that is supposed to be induced in us, by people asking for vast powers over the minutiae of our lives.

Scratch green paint, find bright pink, or even deep, scarlet red.

I remember years ago listening to Michael Oppenheimer going on about global warming -- the only thing to do, he was telling us, was to ditch our picayune little political institutions and fork over vast, unreviewable powers to a scientific clerisy.

Yeah, right.

10 posted on 08/26/2003 5:33:34 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: KMAJ2
However, putting the two different sets of data together in this way makes a stunning visual display for the average reader.

For the average moron?
Think Jr high school elementary math and science.

Wish I could find that excerpt from Mark Twain's life on the Mississippi that illustrates the silliness of extrapolations.

That a charlatan masquerading as a "scientist" is allowed to do it in any serious way is mind-boggling.

11 posted on 08/26/2003 5:39:59 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
Any reporter actively in search for the facts on global warming would easily discover that during the last three years more than 17,000 American scientists, including geophysicists, climatologists, meteorologists, and oceanographers, have signed the Oregon Petition declaring that "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of . . . greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate." [http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm]
12 posted on 08/26/2003 5:42:59 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
In the early 1990s Lindzen was asked to contribute to the IPCC's 1995 report. At the time, he held (and still does) that untangling human influences from the natural variation of the global climate is next to impossible. When the report's summary came out, he was dismayed to read its conclusion: "The balance of evidence suggests that there is a discernible human influence on global climate."
"That struck me as bizarre," he says. "Because without saying how much the effect was, the statement had no meaning. If it was discernible and very small, for instance, it would be no problem."
Environmentalist Bill McKibbon referred to this phrase in an article in The Atlantic in May 1998: "The panel's 2,000 scientists, from every corner of the globe, summed up their findings in this dry but historic bit of understatement."

In an angry letter, Lindzen wrote that the full report "takes great pains to point out that the statement has no implications for the magnitude of the effect, is dependent on the [dubious] assumption that natural variability obtained from [computer] models is the same as that in nature, and, even with these caveats, is largely a subjective matter."

13 posted on 08/26/2003 5:46:16 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
The wonderful thing about computer models is that you can fine tune them to give exactly the results you are seeking.
14 posted on 08/26/2003 5:56:08 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Never forget: CLINTON PARDONED TERRORISTS)
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To: wirestripper
" Also, the tree and plant growth should have compensated for any CO2 increases..."

The dang weeds at my place are sucking up CO2 so fast this year that I've got a green tornado in the backyard.

15 posted on 08/26/2003 6:25:51 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: farmfriend
ping
16 posted on 08/26/2003 6:35:06 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: KMAJ2; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ApesForEvolution; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

17 posted on 08/26/2003 7:31:09 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
18 posted on 08/26/2003 7:37:46 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Dark Knight
Scientific decisions based on politics are doomed.

Except Dupont's Freon r12 scam, which has been a perfect crime so far, as the patent was running out they "sponsored" dubious research & manidiotulated govgreenys into what we have today.

The "new" Freon 134a is actually an older formula not as good as r12 (it is perfect, can't be improved upon).

Freon formula 134a was put on the shelf long ago when r12 was developed for many reasons (not the least of which it can be corrosive & poisonous).

19 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41:07 AM PDT by norraad
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To: farmfriend
The environazis are on the run!

Be Well ~ Be Armed ~ Be Safe ~ Molon Labe!
20 posted on 08/26/2003 8:26:04 AM PDT by blackie
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