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Lack of leadership showing (Arizona)
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| Pat Regan
Posted on 08/25/2003 1:08:50 PM PDT by hsmomx3
Edited on 05/07/2004 5:21:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Arizona will never have to worry about terrorist attacks; it will self-destruct.
This gas debacle is just another example of a state that is so sorely lacking in leadership that it is starting to have a real foul odor about it.
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TOPICS: Editorial; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; gasshortages; napolitano
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posted on
08/25/2003 1:08:51 PM PDT
by
hsmomx3
To: hsmomx3
Thank God the ape-like Janet Napolitano is finaly get some greif for her lack of guidance on this issue. I live in pheonix and their is not enough scorn for her regarding her limp wristed leadership. Changing names of mountains to follow political correctness is not leadership. Even though this article does name her directly it hints at her talk and do nothing strategy.
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posted on
08/25/2003 1:41:15 PM PDT
by
fontoon
To: hsmomx3
are we the only AZ Freepers?
no one else is reponding
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posted on
08/25/2003 2:03:15 PM PDT
by
fontoon
To: hsmomx3
What?
You want more than "If everyone would quit buying gas, there would be plenty for everyone."?
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posted on
08/25/2003 3:16:29 PM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
To: fontoon
Well, what is there to say? Pat nailed it...we have ridden the crest of a feel-good wave for way too long, and we're about to get smashed in the surf.
No refinery, two pipelines, no new electric generation, no new highway construction outside of Maricopa County... has there been any railroad maintenance in the state?
There's been a lot of talk about light rail and wind-generation of electricity...and all of it useless as commercially viable alternatives.
Harrumph.
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posted on
08/25/2003 3:30:21 PM PDT
by
HiJinx
(The Right person, at the Right place...)
To: HiJinx
I'm not sure what building a refinery in Phoenix or anywhere in AZ would accomplish.
The crude still has to be transported to the refinery via pipeline or truck...same situation as the refined gas...and the cost of refined gas from crude brought into the state would be higher...you don't get 1 gallon of refined gas from one gallon of crude.
Places where the oil reservoirs are located or where there is an ocean port are where refineries should be located.
In addition, I believe that a refinery would produce emissions that would not fly with the enviro weenies in this state.
Increasing refined fuel storage here in AZ would be a cleaner/cheaper alternative to building a refinery.
As far as the effectiveness of Butch, she chose a typical Democrat response and blamed someone else. She blamed Kinder Morgan for not having a emergency backup plan in place...last time I looked Kinder Morgan was a pipeline company responsible for operating their business in a safe manner, the government is responsible for state emergencies.
You're right about the light rail line...Phoenix is just not designed for mass transit.
To: in the Arena
And I wasn't thinking too clearly in my first response, I was just picking up on earlier comments in other threads.
I've had some education re: energy and geography, and I knew that about refineries. You can make some valid parallels, I think, between petroleum distribution and electricity distribution. Although expensive in the short term (acquisition), redundant or alternative distro facilities end up saving your bacon when the proverbial defecation hits the rotary air circulator.
Sometimes the ROI (return-on-investment) comes in terms of goodwill instead of dollars and cents.
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posted on
08/25/2003 4:21:18 PM PDT
by
HiJinx
(The Right person, at the Right place...)
To: hsmomx3
Did anybody ever think it might be a good idea to run an auxiliary line just in case? Or, heaven forbid, install our own refinery right here in our tiny little state?
With all the resistance from the tree huggers and other "Greenie weenies" you have to get a permit to drive a golf tee into the ground here. Its the fault of the environmentalist wackos that we can't modernize...not our lame brained Gov or legislature. Private enterprise is being hamstrung and will continue to be until we rid ourselves of those nuts who wish for us all to return to the cave dwellings they so much admire.
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