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To: cajungirl; billbears
I don't think he was asking questions. I think he was sneering and using a cynical approach to sow distrust of our commander in chief in a war, a war, not a political arguement over how to spend our tax money.

Do you think? Or do you know? Did you try and get any more clarification? From the looks of it, you didn't. There were many invitations for billbears to shut up, buzz off, go to DU, etc. There were very few that actually engaged him and did honest debate. You, as I have pointed out, were not among them.

So why does Bilious come here implying GWB and our intelligence is lying or deceiving us? That is the question I was answering. I was saying he is no friend to us, to our war effort, was undermining trust at a vital time.

I think the implication was going to war on faulty intelligence. Billbears points out that North Korea and Saudi Arabia are more immediate threats than Iraq was. While I disagree, I must admit that he may have a point. I personally happen to think that Iraq puts us in a position to hit every viper's nest from a central location as well as put pressure on Iran, Syria, and Saudi Arabia. But I will personally attest to billbear being genuine. I can say that he subscribes to the old philosophy of keeping ourselves out of entangling wars and actions. That is a philosophy of the Founding Fathers. I think that preemptive action was needed in this case and am glad we did it; he doesn't. Why not engage in honest debate and change his mind?

You don't sit around carping in a political way about the Commander during wartime unless of course you are part of a fifth column. I used to think that was all paranoid thinking but I am more and more convinced it is so.

Really? And you didn't say a word when Bill Clinton was bombing Iraq in 1998? I sure did. Does that make me not "genuine", "traitorous", "part of a fifth column", a "naive congenital distrustful doubter"? How about you? Do you fit those descriptions if you cast doubt about Clinton's actions? I don't think it does and furthermore, I don't think it makes billbears that way, either. Because I know him to not be a socialist rabble rouser or a democrat, I think he asks hard questions and makes good points, even if I don't agree with them. If it comes to the point where I don't trust what I am being told by President Bush, or his admin, I will start asking questions. Lots of them.

I think you are way way off base.

I know that I am not. A little research would tell you the same.
241 posted on 08/26/2003 8:37:16 AM PDT by wasp69 (Remember, Uday in Pig Latin is DU)
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To: wasp69
I personally happen to think that Iraq puts us in a position to hit every viper's nest from a central location as well as put pressure on Iran, Syria, and Saudi Arabia.

Thanks, you bring up an interesting point in this and it is a valid point that does concern me. I do believe with you there is a need to establish a more stable form of government there

245 posted on 08/26/2003 8:53:22 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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