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McClintock Facing Republican Threats?
Belly of the Beast Blog ^ | August 24, 2004 | Eric Hogue

Posted on 08/24/2003 1:47:41 PM PDT by Eric Hogue 1380 KTKZ

Now that Bill Simon has left the building, State Senator Tom McClintock currenlty has the 'only growing campaign'. I'm reading the LA Times article on Simon's departure this morning and I find this nugget of political muscle.

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To: McGavin999
I am saying that the Governor does not MAKE law, the legislature does.

Tom has promised to take the implementation of the Arizona workers compensation to a vote of the people if the legislature fails to implement it. Ballot initiatives traditionally get a lot of conservative votes in California so this will work .

This is not an ordinary situation, it's going to take some one who has a completely different skill set then normal.

Well on that we can both agree. We fail to agree on whom to support though, so I guess we’ve reached an impasse. Lets see how Tom and Arnold shape up in the days ahead. Personally I’m hoping Tom will be the conservative conscience of Arnold and move him in the right direction but we’ll see.

201 posted on 08/24/2003 8:23:23 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
Lets see how Tom and Arnold shape up in the days ahead. Personally I’m hoping Tom will be the conservative conscience of Arnold and move him in the right direction but we’ll see.

Agreed. Personally, I'm hoping they work together to pull California out of this mess.

The dividend refund is a great incentive. Most employers split the dividends with their employees giving them a "Safety Bonus" each year. It really does cut down on claims.

202 posted on 08/24/2003 8:30:06 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Hue68
With due respect for Jim, his is just one opinion on this site.

He isn't the only one who noticed Perot peeking through.

203 posted on 08/24/2003 8:35:18 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Guyin4Os
You replied: I suppose my reply is that we don't know.

I did?

204 posted on 08/24/2003 8:38:11 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: McGavin999
The Governor only presents a budget, he does not hold the purse strings.

McGavin999

In Calif. the Governor has the line idem veto... This is one reason Gray is far more to blame for the budget... line by line he could have struck any program or part of a program.... the gov here has far more than most could have controlled the problems

205 posted on 08/24/2003 8:42:33 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: McGavin999
That's my point. Just because Schwarzenegger is leading now does not mean he'll be leading on Oct. 7.
206 posted on 08/24/2003 8:48:18 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Spiff
Last year, while campaigning for his Prop. 49 after-school programs initiative, Schwarzenegger...declared in answer to a question from the audience: "I would never stand in the way of any child going to school, whether he or she is here legally or illegally, it does not matter." - Sacramento Bee, 24 August

Looks like Arnold was lying about his alleged support for Proposition 187.

207 posted on 08/24/2003 8:50:30 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Not only that...check this gem out:

Schwarzenegger Tries to Add Some Substance to Celebrity

Mr. Schwarzenegger said that he would also ask the federal government to help defray the costs of illegal immigration and that he did not support Proposition 54, which would prohibit the state from collecting racial data. That initiative will appear on the same ballot as the recall on Oct. 7.

208 posted on 08/24/2003 9:05:39 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Roscoe
And another thing that might concern conservatives...ahem... <--Not safe for work

Have conservative Republicans lost their minds!!!?

209 posted on 08/24/2003 9:32:49 PM PDT by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Spiff
Thanks to the steroids, that's probably considerably less of a concern now.
210 posted on 08/24/2003 9:34:21 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
What an odd comparison to make from someone trying to call themselves "AmericanUnited" to flame McClintock with so much hatred.

I gennerally don't reply to people who are too lazy to read what's I've posted, but for you, I'll make an exception.

I agree almost 100% with McClintock's positions. If a month from now, he is ahead of Arnold, I will declare that Arnold should drop out. If a month from now, McClintock is in single digits, and Arnold leads or is neck and neck with BustyBreasts, then will you say that Tom should drop out for the good of all?

211 posted on 08/24/2003 10:02:28 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
I agree almost 100% with McClintock's positions

Not 100? Just kidding. Well you should read more of what the guy says, he's as rock ribbed a conservative as ANY in American politics since Reagan, no BS.

If a month from now, he is ahead of Arnold, I will declare that Arnold should drop out

No doubt, and not out of the question either.

If a month from now, McClintock is in single digits, and Arnold leads or is neck and neck with BustyBreasts, then will you say that Tom should drop out for the good of all?

No, and here's why, before they '02 elections, all the polls where saying it wasn't a matter of whether the GOP was going to lose the Senate and possibly the House, but HOW MUCH they would lose. This isn't the first time polls have been liberally skewed. Come to think of it-they always are. Statistically, they always do a poor job of accounting for "flyover country". I mean the House races of 94 are another perfect example of substance over buzz. All of CA polls seem to be taken from urban areas, I think that makes them HEAVILY skewed to the Left. If Tom is in the upper teens by the election, and (R)nold and "N-Word" are where they are as well, Tom wins the election. Hands down, no ifs ands or buts. I will make you an ironclad handshake of a promise on Aug 24.

The reason so many want him to drop out is that if he gets up in a debate, he'll slaughter ANYONE against him, plus the Demos don't like that Tom will draw the conservatives in the red counties, bitter at the GOP, out to the polls. Like Tom said, if nothing else, having more GOP candidate only assures that more Republicans will be voting "yes" on the recall, it doesn't hurt (R)nold if he still has more total votes in the least bit.

But like I said, if the polls show its close-Tom McClintock wins the Governorship

212 posted on 08/24/2003 10:14:48 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: jfritsch
"we’ve lost something very important in our democracy, and it’s called merit."

Maybe it's time to remind Tom that he lost something equally important last fall - HIS STATEWIDE ELECTION.
213 posted on 08/25/2003 5:29:25 AM PDT by Those_Crazy_Liberals (Ronaldus Magnus he's our man . . . If he can't do it, no one can.)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
... But like I said, if the polls show its close-Tom McClintock wins the Governorship.

Boy, you're really gonna enjoy cruz.

214 posted on 08/25/2003 8:10:32 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: 68 grunt
Boy, you're really gonna enjoy cruz.

Go yell "boo" at somebody who takes this seriously. That guy pledged to increase taxes on the poor, wake up, when the people start listening to policy 2 weeks outside the election, he's going NOWHERE!

Besides, I'll like him better than this guy representing my own party;


215 posted on 08/25/2003 8:12:56 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
You ain't listenin'! The vote will not turn out for him. It doesn't matter that he's the better and more gifted candidate. You're gonna love cruz, and it seems like you're doing some heavy lifting for him now.
216 posted on 08/25/2003 8:16:08 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: 68 grunt
You ain't listenin'! The vote will not turn out for him.

That's an ironic statement. Read the rest of what I posted on the thread concerning this common misconception.

The reality is that I want (R)nold Buffet in the race, he's going to get alot of star struck morons who don't typically vote to vote "yes" on #1.

Now the same logic that you are using to say the vote will not turn out APPLIES to AS. People who are truely conservative, will never, ever,ever,ever vote for a guy who's proabortion, pro gay adoption, pro gun control, an suspected of being resentful of Prop 13 in the red counties outside of SF/LA. Not gonna happen! Those folks are the reason all the Props are on the books, not my town, and not SF. They are the driving force behind politics, and your failure to address them will cost us this election if we do this "rallying" BS.

217 posted on 08/25/2003 8:24:06 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Enjoy your dude, cruz. All I'd like is for republicans to quit attacking republicans. Attack the enemy! Stand on honor and integrity and allow the electorate to make their choice.

Not you, though, nor the other's of similary persuasion. Your attack is ceaseless and ugly, and all it will do is elect bustamonte. That you don't recognize this narrows your vision, or leads me to suspect your real goal. Division. Divide and conquer. Good job, person of the republic.
218 posted on 08/25/2003 8:31:52 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: McGavin999
I'm a little sick of the rudeness around here.

You're the one being rude. You call Tom McClintock names, like "spoiler" and "the Perot in the race". Both are untruths.

219 posted on 08/25/2003 8:33:42 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: 68 grunt
Stand on honor and integrity and allow the electorate to make their choice.

That, unlike you, is precisely what I am doing. Since I think about the issues, not whether or not someone has the letter 'R' in their name, its alot easier for me.

Also not being a whiny, defeatist, nattering nabob of negatives also allows me to do so.

220 posted on 08/25/2003 8:33:58 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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