Stokes Rips Ward Lines OK'd by Council [Black Councilman Wants Fewer White Elected Officials]

The Clarion-Ledger (Jackson, MS) ^ | 8/13/03 | Laura Hipp

[bourbon]

The Jackson City Council approved new ward lines Tuesday amid objections from Ward 3 Councilman Kenneth Stokes, who said he wants fewer white elected officials.

Several colleagues quickly countered Stokes' remarks, emphasizing all races are welcome.

The approved plan moves seven voting precincts into new wards, but leaves Ward 7 basically untouched.

[wardaddy]

This kind of beahvior is old news to those of us from the Cotton States.

to quote old vernacular:

"da bottom rung done moved up top, and be time to get paid"

That's just how it is. Jackson is lost for many genrations to come...gone...dust....East St Louis or Gary....just further South.

[BenLurkin]

RACIST, yes.

Pointless to ask I suppose but Where is the outrage in the media?"

[potlatch]

The everlasting black and white issue. How sad! Maybe we should all wear paper bags over our heads, LOL!

[bourbon]

Stringfellow is a good guy, but, based on a reading of most of his columns, I would generally place him in the liberal camp. It's very good to see that he is willing to criticize black racist thugs like Stokes.

Here's an interesting corollary... Kenneth Stokes' father was a painter, and many years ago my grandfather frequently employed him to paint some of the various properties he owned/managed. Kenneth, who was a child at the time, used to accompany his dad to work. My mother, who was a teenager then, remembers little Kenneth well. She said he was a nice child, and she is at a loss to explain how he could turn into such a racist gasbag politico. I suppose evil works in mysterious ways?

[bourbon]

I think Stokes and Bennie T. are big buddies. I believe they frequently campaign together in Jackson.

[Mo1]

The Jackson City Council approved new ward lines Tuesday amid objections from Ward 3 Councilman Kenneth Stokes, who said he wants fewer white elected officials

Let me guess .. he's a democrat???

[bourbon]

Scalia said in Lawrence v. Texas that the USSCT has chosen sides in the larger cultural battle for gay rights. It should be equally clear that the court has chosen sides in the cultural battle over this country's religious heritage and character.

With regards to the Establishment Clause, the Court has freed itself of any restraints imposed by the language or history of that clause. By changing the tests for establishment from ones that included some calculus of actual coercion of a citizen's conscience to tests which found a violation wherever there was "excessive entanglement" between state and church or whereever the government may have "endorsed" a religion however casually, the Court has turned the Establishment Clause in to a tool for the complete secularization of society. I believe their greater aim is to discredit religion as a typically human aspiration or ideal.

[bourbon]

DING, DING, DING!!!!

You win a prize! He is most certainly a Democrat.

[bourbon]

How many people were going after Moore on FR? Were there lots of people expressing sympathies with Morris Dees et al?

Oh, and once again, what is this "overlapping amendments" stuff you mentioned in an earlier post. I'm deadly curious to know exactly the source and nature of this foolishness. :-)

[wardaddy]

Indeed....this alleged Conservative court only has 3 dependable conservatives and one is very old sadly.

[wardaddy]

I was pretty much in the thick of it. I'd say maybe 25% were against Moore. Of course they disavowed any connection to the unholy alliance partners they were allied with.

There seemed to be an undertone of resentment against Protestant Right Wing Christians(especially of the Southern variety) from the usual suspects including some atheists, libertarians, lapsed Catholics etc.

It should be noted though that quite a few Catholic and Jewish freepers supported Moore.

The usual slurs that we are Talibanesque and that the founders were all Diests ( blatant lie) etc.

They harped on the fact that Moore is an opportunist which he is as would anyone who has taken up the guantlet he has. They also despised Reverend Kennedy ..a quite conservative pastor from Florida with Coral Ridge Ministries and who is backing Moore to a degree because Kennedy has a his sermons televised on Sundays.... I like Kennedy and Stanley and Graham the elder and younger...all of whom use television. That does not make them Benny Hinn by default.

There were arguments that the 10th and 14th amendments trump the specific language of the 1st...that sort of thing.

[Yudan]

That's to really be expected. I can tolerate PRINCIPLED liberals.

It's the kind that embrace EVERY whining special interest group that are intolerable. The political whores - they'll sleep with anyone to get their face on television or their name in print.

[bourbon]

The usual slurs that we are Talibanesque and that the founders were all Diests ( blatant lie) etc.

In law school, my famously histrionic and deeply liberal con. law prof. asked me in class if I thought that there was any danger that this country would "turn into the Taliban" (his words) if we didn't respect the "strict" separation of Church and State.

I told him that I didn't think that there was the least danger of this ever happening, mainly because the U.S. has always been a religiously pluralisitc and sectarian country and that the prospect of theocracy had not presented a proximate danger to Western Civilization since the Middle Ages. I also said that I thought there was a much greater danger of this country turning into a rigorously atheistic nanny-state in which people of faith were persecuted and lived in fear for their very lives. Additionally, I pointed out that precisely such a fate had recently befallen countries to which we bear much more of a sociological/cultural/historical similarity than Afghanistan.

This Taliban analogy is simply ridiculous and usually the product of a damaged or diseased mind. I prefer to deal with realistic fears when aligning my political preferences.

[bourbon]

I can tolerate PRINCIPLED liberals.

I completely agree. I just wanted to let you know where Stringfellow is normally coming from. I know you don't have the (cough...ahem) "pleasure" of reading the Clarion-Ledger on a regular basis. :-)

[bourbon]

Just another thought. There has to be a tremendous amount of overlap between the anti-Christian bigots and anti-South bigots on FR. I suppose it shouldn't be surprising that these two groups share a lot of members.

[wardaddy]

You have largely hit the proverbial nail on the head.

It is the usual suspects with the "toothless, sister marrying, redneck, bigot, racist, trailer park living, must be a neo-Reb" comments of their usual vitriol.

...and then you have the libertarians and objectivists....