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To: sarcasm; Dane
Now for the actual facts which I have reviewed with Dane before. Ronald Reagan had tariffs raised and quotas put in place on Japanese automobiles coming to the USA. ronald Reagan was a "Free Trader" The way I am a "Free Trader" in that he generally supported Free Trade as defined by Adam Smith. That is tariffs are to be used to protect national defense industries, as retaliation or revenge, to foster industry and "to crack open markets.

Dane - we have been through this before if you had read sufficiently on Ronald Reagan you would know this for fact. If you had read his speeches and full statements you would not be saying he was a globalist style Free trader who belived in unilaterally lowering American tariffs. I further note it was not Ronald Reagan who signed off on NAFTA or GATT though clearly if he had wante dan end to American Tariffs unilaterally he could have proposed that and probably gotten it through Congress without much fuss muss or hassle.

Now I have reviewed the posts on this thread Dane and your first post to it was abusive and you have gotten more vitrioloic since. Now I have been trying to get away from any flames and I am not flaming you here. I have abjured the word "traitor" unless and until someone clearly states they would willingly trade with an enemy of the USA in time of war because all laws that interfere with the right to trade with anyone free of interference are an infringement on their natural rights. Now, Dane, you have not to my knowledge made any such statement.

In any case, Dane, you really should be concerned with civilly discussing issues and not trying to engage in heated rhetoric where you are misstating facts. I have provided you with accurate history and if you were to review Dinesh DeSouza's(sp?) works you would undertand that already.

70 posted on 08/24/2003 6:41:16 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: harpseal; sarcasm
In any case, Dane, you really should be concerned with civilly discussing issues and not trying to engage in heated rhetoric where you are misstating facts

Huh I just brought up the fact that the article sarcasm posted praises Fritz Hollings.

I call that desperation from the doom and gloom side.

If that is being absuvie, then so be it. I call it giving my opinion.

72 posted on 08/24/2003 6:50:26 PM PDT by Dane
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To: harpseal
Proposed concept behind NAFTA in 1979

Reagan himself was a dreamer, capable of imagining a world without trade barriers. In announcing his presidential candidacy in Nov. 1979, he had proposed a “North American accord” in which commerce & people would move freely across the borders of Canada & Mexico. This idea, largely overlooked or dismissed as a campaign gimmick in the US, rankled nationalist sensibilities in the neighboring nations. But Reagan was serious in his proposal. Though he traveled only once outside the North American continent during his first 57 years, he was neither insular nor isolationist. California has windows to the world in Asia, and Reagan thought of the US as a Pacific power as well as an Atlantic one. He also had a Californian’s consciousness of Mexico and an actor’s appreciation of Canadians, who are well-represented in the film community. The dream of a North American accord would drive the successful pursuit of a US-Canadian free trade agreement and a future-oriented “framework” trade agreement with Mexico

Issues2000.org

74 posted on 08/24/2003 6:57:30 PM PDT by Dane
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