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To: schaketo
The Palestinians and the Israelis
The Irish and the British
The Germans and the French
The Germans and the French
The Chinese and the Vietnamese
The Japanese and the Koreans
The Hindus and the Muslims
The Muslims and the Christians
The Turks and the Armenians
The Anglo Americans and the Native Americans
The Anglo Americans and the African Americans
The Tribes in Africa that are too numerous to name
The Jews and the Muslims
Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis


They are examples of what can happen when a cycle of pain is perpetuated.

One would think we can learn something from them and do better...

This keeps coming up a little too often... It is a little like the recall here in CA... Abusing a process but the difference is that here in CA, we really do want to get rid of the governor... I think there has to be a point where we say that it is the past but we don't have to dwell on it everyday... I think each generation of black people tends to see what the other communities have, gets angry, and perhaps someone has discovered a way to get some money out of this. I will say again that I do not want any of that money because I don't need to be paid off. I do not agree with the people that say you are not responsible for the sins of your ancestors. You owe it to us to never allow such a system to exist again. I think you have kept up your end on that issue. I think there is a responsibility to learn from the mistakes your ancestors made and try to do better. I think you are OK there too.

As I have said so many times, we owe it to each other to obey the law and give everyone a fair shot. We also owe it to each other to be as qualified and as productive as possible... That is not something that can be settled in a lawsuit... The facts concerning slavery are not in dispute... The level of responsibility is in dispute... If you look at this country and the civil rights legislation, the education, the military, the government programs, you will see that so many have taken responsibility for the past and tried to make it right...
Reparations were not meant to be used as a means of righting social injustice... There is no amount of money that can buy someone's right to enslave another. There is also no amount of money we can pay that would compensate the following generations for what they have done. I think focusing on what happened so long ago goes against everything we with the Christian Faith have been taught... "Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us"



That is what our laws and the way we act toward one another publicly is about... If you look deeply at the parties that are moving forward with this suit, you are going to find persons that are feeling one of two things...Anger or fear.... All I do is tell them to read the serenity prayer... The past is not something they can change.... The way we treat one another presently and in the future...That is what we determine...
And until they accept which one is which... They are simply opening up old wounds and creating new ones.... I think Hippocrates had it right... First, do no harm...

And try not to listen to Rush Limbaugh too much. He already has enough bad things to say about you. Don't give him the satisfaction of having another reason to think the worst of us. Sean Hannity...conservative and very fair...
22 posted on 08/24/2003 10:33:25 AM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: dwd1
Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis

ROFL! Having personally watched those Labor Day Telethons I believe I am entitled to reparations.

45 posted on 08/24/2003 2:02:01 PM PDT by Randjuke
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To: dwd1
And try not to listen to Rush Limbaugh too much. He already has enough bad things to say about you.

I'm curious about what this might mean? (I understood the rest of what you said, and basically forgive and forget) Holding grudges poisons the heart.

Especially if they are grudges about what somebody else did to my ancestors.

50 posted on 08/24/2003 7:17:58 PM PDT by First Amendment
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