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To: BushCountry
This is no great surprise, or shouldn't be.

There have been extensive discussions in the last few years arguing that the only reliable archival medium is acid-free paper.

Think about it. How many reading this can read 5-1/4 inch floppies? Anyone?
Technology "advances", and all prior means of accessing archived data disappears, with no means or even thought of recovering the trillions bits of data sitting in warehouses rotting.

I remember clearly that most if not all of the data related to the space studies and research of the 50s and 60s already is gone forever.

What is remarkable is that little or no solution has been proposed to this very real problem.

It will be a profound irony when we find ourselves able to view photos from the 1900s more readily than digital images being "archived" today.

7 posted on 08/24/2003 7:31:15 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
BUMP!
9 posted on 08/24/2003 7:33:25 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
>>5-1/4 inch floppies? Anyone?

5-1/4 inch floppies? How about 9-track tapes!
12 posted on 08/24/2003 7:34:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: Publius6961
Think about it. How many reading this can read 5-1/4 inch floppies? Anyone?

I can. :-)

I can even read 8" floppies and teletype punch tape still. :-)

14 posted on 08/24/2003 7:35:28 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Publius6961
How many reading this can read 5-1/4 inch floppies? Anyone?

Sure..I've got a 3 1/2 - 5 1/4 combo floppy drive on one of my machines here just for that purpose. Gotta love all those VisiCalc spreadsheets and WordStar docs.

21 posted on 08/24/2003 7:40:13 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Publius6961
There have been extensive discussions in the last few years arguing that the only reliable archival medium is acid-free paper.

I am for micro-etching print (data) using lasers on metal or a hard plastic that will last for a million years.

22 posted on 08/24/2003 7:40:22 AM PDT by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: Publius6961
There have been extensive discussions in the last few years arguing that the only reliable archival medium is acid-free paper.

The problem is that a lot of what we are storing in now digital in nature. It just doesn't lend itself to any meaninfull paper storage. Maybe we ought to go back to the old style of recording, but on titanium instead of vinyl for important stuff. Edison records still play just fine.

34 posted on 08/24/2003 7:53:10 AM PDT by templar
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To: Publius6961
How many reading this can read 5-1/4 inch floppies? Anyone?

I have a 486-66 machine that is still functional. Has 3.5" and 5.25" drives. It didn't come with the 5.25", I had to install it when I needed to use some old software about 6 years ago. I have a functional (I think) punched tape reader in storage.

44 posted on 08/24/2003 8:03:04 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: Publius6961
"How many reading this can read 5-1/4 inch floppies? Anyone?"

One of my PCs still has a 5-1/4" floppy. hehe
50 posted on 08/24/2003 8:16:06 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Publius6961
As you probably know, NASA commissioned oil paintings of famous scenes in space, since the lifetime of Kodachrome film is unknown. We know that oil paintings can last for many centuries.
74 posted on 08/24/2003 8:58:38 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Publius6961
Color film may last much longer than CDs, video tape and audio tape recordings, especially if stored correctly. We found video and audio tapes that lost their recorded material in ten years or even less. However, all color film and prints invariably fade over time as the dyes deteriorate. Black and white film and prints last even longer as they are based upon silver compounds that do not easily fade (unless they were poorly "fixed" in the processing). If color or black and white film negatives or prints are stored in a freezer, they last much longer.

There is a profitable business in California that recovers "lost" movies from the past by reconstituting each frame of faded film negatives or prints and making them like new.

78 posted on 08/24/2003 9:03:51 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus (RATS are scum)
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To: Publius6961
How many reading this can read 5-1/4 inch floppies? Anyone?

I do! I do!!!

I've got a few Teac combo 1.2MB/1.44MB drives just for that purpose. Plus, somewhere in the basement, I've got an 8" SSSD floppy drive! Gotta love it! CPM-80! If you can't do it in 64K and 8 bits, it doesn't need to get done!

Mark

89 posted on 08/24/2003 9:44:41 AM PDT by MarkL (Get something every day from the four basic food groups: canned, frozen, fast and takeout)
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To: Publius6961
Think about it. How many reading this can read 5-1/4 inch floppies? Anyone?

I have a working 486 stored in my basement that will do it - its only been there 6 months.

120 posted on 08/24/2003 11:37:58 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine ("voting RINO in order to crush the dreams of the little man in election after election")
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To: Publius6961
I still have one of the machines that can read the 5 1/4 floppies - the guys use it to play old DOS games on. I think it's got Windows 3.1 as well. They're kinda fanatical about games, even have an Atari 7600 but that's broken.
171 posted on 08/29/2003 1:45:25 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Never voted for a Democrat in my life.)
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To: Publius6961
[i] Think about it. How many reading this can read 5-1/4 inch floppies? Anyone?[/i][p]

I still have a working 5 1/4 inch drive which I can stick in if I needed to.
172 posted on 09/03/2003 4:45:58 PM PDT by gd124
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