[Noachian]

If big government is against the conservative agenda, and Bush is a conservative, how does Bush's pushing of the Patriot Act, and other similiar acts, diminish big government?

Although we need extraordinary laws for extraordinary times laws that limit individual freedoms, while enlarging the role of government, are more of a Democratic/Liberal idea than a Conservative idea. Long after this war is over those laws will still be on the books, and will have consequences unforeseen by today's Congress.

How these laws will be used by a future Clinton-type president to expand his personal agenda and enlarge government is scary to think about, and the irony is that those laws will have been put in place by a conservative president.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"How these laws will be used by a future Clinton-type president to expand his personal agenda and enlarge government is scary to think about, and the irony is that those laws will have been put in place by a conservative president"

The clintons used the old laws to destroy enemies well enough. Hillary must be drooling over new ones that increase govt rights and diminish indiv liberty.

Since she advocates the judiciary making laws anyway, I wonder if it really matters in the end.